Hey all


Just figured out that I don't know how to make AI TB3 drop their carried I16's?!?

Have first and second TB3 waypoints with I16's attached..

Next TB3 waypoint is ground attack
Next I16 waypoint is set to attacking enemy aircraft.
The I16's don't detach.


Any help would be most helpfull

ThankS~
EZ

JG26_EZ

Thread at M4T: http://mission4today.com/index...ile=viewtopic&t=5044

Here is a simple Mission you can copy and paste into a .mis file.
I am having the I-16's bomb a tanker.
You will notice that the I-16's only have one waypoint.
That is fine they should bomb the tanker and still fly home and land.
The Gattack point is set by the bombers.

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Wheels

(Edit- I posted this as the last response must have been posted. still looking for an answer)

Okay...

Too add, I have given the i16's a ground attack waypoint and it's worked but I really didn't want them to spend time attacking ground..

Still looking for how to do it without having them bomb or straffe first

I think you are trying to use the fighters like escorts which is a problem.
The game treats the I-16's as ordnance.
If you don't put bombs on the I-16's or attach the Gattack point to a target the TB-3's will not drop them at a Gattack point.

The I-16's only get one waypoint which you attach to the TB-3.
(See my .mis file example in my prior post.)
All of the other waypoints are set by the bomber.
After the I-16's attack the target then they will fly home following the bombers waypoint path.
They will attack any fighters they encounter after they have attacked the target you set with the Gattack point.

You can also set the target on the bomber to attack the incoming fighters.
Just like you would with a fighter squadron.
Use the "Set" target feature and the green line will extend from the bombers to the fighters.
The bombers will continue on their way home following their waypoints without engaging the enemy fighters like fighters but it helps to ensure that the fighters in the TB-3 flight will attack the bandits.


Wheels

I guess I wanted to do something that I simply cannot in the FMB.

Thanks for your time Wheels

EZ

Here's the mission anyways for anyone that can reach into the magic black hat and make what I meant to happen, happen.
It's a coop with all the eye candy included.

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[Bridge]
[House]

I still am not sure what you are trying to do with the I-16's.
As best as you can will you tell me what you are wanting to do with the I-16's.
I copied the mission and I an going to look at it.
I will be out most of today though.


Wheels

quote:

Originally posted by JG26_EZ:
...I really didn't want them to spend time attacking ground

Pity, because the real ones were designed to do just that - which may be one reason the AI behaviour isn't what you want. The I-16 part of the Zveno had guns removed and the wing strengthened to allow steep diving attacks (neither feature modelled in game). This combination of TB-3 and SPB, 'high-speed dive-bomber', gave the Soviets the only long-range dive-bomber in the world at the time. It was actually quite successful, given the small numbers employed.

What Wheels said:

quote:

The I-16's only get one waypoint which you attach to the TB-3.
(See my .mis file example in my prior post.)
All of the other waypoints are set by the bomber.
After the I-16's attack the target then they will fly home following the bombers waypoint path.
They will attack any fighters they encounter after they have attacked the target you set with the Gattack point.

You can also set the target on the bomber to attack the incoming fighters.
Just like you would with a fighter squadron.
Use the "Set" target feature and the green line will extend from the bombers to the fighters.
The bombers will continue on their way home following their waypoints without engaging the enemy fighters like fighters but it helps to ensure that the fighters in the TB-3 flight will attack the bandits.

is probably the method most likely to do what you want.

Wheels..

I simply wanted them to detach where they do in the mission, without bombing, just to attack the flyable 109's on the strip with guns, that's all. My hope was to get the i16's dropping and coming in on the axis fighters with just seconds for the them to takeoff without being straffed.


Thanks for your time peoples.

EZ

This message has been edited. Last edited by: JG26_EZ,

First you are going to have to remove all of the extra waypoints for the I-16's.
One is all that will work when using the I-16's in this manner.
The bomber sets all of the waypoints for the I-16's except the first one which you attach to the bomber.

It's a parent - child setup where the child actually listens.

I just thought of something else I want to try after reading your post so I'll be back.


Wheels

In my Air Pirates campaigns I have a couple missions where the SPB TB3 comes in, drops some fighters which attack the player who is taking off from the ground. Also I have some where you are an I-16 SPB pilot who gets dropped from the TB3 mother ship and then you get into a dogfight with some fighters. If you want I can post the mission data here and you can see how I set it up and try to replicate it for yourself.

I played the air pirate missions and the Zveno missions are really fun. Its fairly easy to recreate once you get used to the process and learn the little nit-picking details.

Kinda lost track of this thread.

Thanks. Will look.

What I find I have to do to get the Tupolev bombers to drop the I-16's is put a ground object like a truck on the ground near the target I want the I-16's to attack. Then I set a Tupolev ground attack waypoint near that truck and set the waypoint's target on the truck. Then I set an I-16 waypoint after that with ground attack waypoint on the thing I want the I-16's to attack--a bridge, stationary enemy planes on a field, etc.

It requires a lot of trial and error. There may be other ways to get the I-16's to drop but I haven't figured it out--if you set the Tupolev's waypoint to the thing you want the I-16 to attack, the I-16's drop too close to the target and drop their bombs immediately without aiming them right--but using the truck has them drop like 1km away from the target and they drop nicely, fly towards the target airfield/bridge/whatever and drop their bombs nicely.

Like I said take a look at my Air Pirate missions, let me know if you need more help or if you find an easier way to get them to drop.

And if you want the I-16's to come in and attack enemy fighters that are taking off, don't give the I-16's bombs and don't give them a ground attack waypoint after the drop from the mother ship--instead give them a normal waypoint and set its target to the enemy fighters, they should attack the fighters though the Zveno AI is kind of funny.

ahh gzzz..

I must have misread what you posted.

What I'm trying to do is get them to detach WITHOUT bombs...

Can't be done.

I'm pretty sure it can be done with my method of setting the Tupolev bomber ground attack waypoint to a truck.