Hi all, I decided to work on a new campaign for Greece using the new Italy Map work will be slow and I hope to use the Slovakia map as well. Here are a few screen shots...Made the classic mistake of watching my kill a little to long!













yours stu(oose)

heh heh...I hate it when that happens. Those Iteyes can be really sneaky. Looks like a good subject. The research involved is always time consuming.

Thanks, Some more shots... I still have plenty of reading to do.







yours stu(oose)

Working on some MC.200 skins, does anyone have any photo of 22 Gruppo MC.200 from March 1941. Need some info...







yours stu(oose)

Plus Bloch 151 hack in a La-5, All skins are work of Tchaika with some changes and adaptions by me.





yours stu (oose)

~S~

Looks GREAT!
can't wait for that...
Thank you for your effort, and please keep us informed on the progress.
For Italian Air Force infos, you can rely on Fernando D'Amico, he is active in the italian UBI Il2 Forum, and for skins Abraxa is the man you will want to ask for.

Carry On!

Hi all,

First missions done, Hurricane introduced into the action..





yours stu(oose)

That's Great!
I like your idea to use skins from one source.
I do it myself, at least per plane type, when I enrich with skins already downloaded campaigns, for my own enjoyment.
If you need any pilot skins BTW, I have some suitable for you in my hands...(Or any other kind of help. I'm Greek you know.)

Thanks elephant,

I have been using your Italian, German BoB and RAF DAF and Winter skins pilot skins. They are great but I do not have any Greek pilot skins and I am finding it hard to find much photographic info. Do you have anything that might help.

yours st(oose)

I'm a Greek-cypriot so this naturally interests me a lot. You might find this useful:
http://imansolas.freeservers.com/Aces/The%20Greek%20PZL%20fighters.html
By the way are there any skins of tha aircraft flown by the great Pattle around? You should include some in your campaign!

looks very good!

Hi all,

Thanks for the interest in this campaign, still working on the lots of stuff, a couple of questions for anyone. Does anybody know about Italian Ju87 actions during the Greek campaign.

Metatron thaks for the link, I have that one, there isquite a lot on the web its just finding it, found some nice pics of Blenheim's in Greece the other day so may start to work on them.I also do not intend to include any spacific skins just Generic ones, as I just dont think I will have the time.

yours stu(oose)

Hate pointing out what I think might be errors when someone is working hard to create a result, but if the RAF Gladiator skin is meant to represent a (Shadow Compensating) Temperate Land Scheme, the application of Light Green and Light Earth should be confined to the lower half of the fuselage and the uppersurface of the lower wing, IMHO.

If it is meant to depict some experimental scheme I have never heard of, please ignore my comment.

Hi all,

Gladiator redone and Ju87 skins from Tchaika Thanks for help
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yours stu(oose)

S! check this http://koti.welho.com/msolanak/index.html

Still working on it, but have got a bit sidetracked been reading "Target Berlin-mission 250:6 March 1944" by Jeffrey Ethell & Alfred Price, and got carried away. Skins by Soots and Compans. Enjoy, will get back to the Med soon.

yours stu(oose)

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Read Roald Dahls book Going Solo. He flew in the Greeki campaign in a Hurricane squadron. There are places and dates mentioned.

cheers

David Prosser

Good idea, Stuartoose.
About the actions of italian Stuka "Picchiatelli" (Little divers).
I have found some information from various sources on the Internet about the short but intense action of Squadron Stuka Picchiatelli that certainly were the most feared planes among Italian air campaign in Greece.

One of the better known Italian Stuka 'aces' was Giuseppe Cenni. Born in 1915 (...) was posted to 354 Squadriglia flying G.50 fighters in late 1939. He was part of the first group of pilots sent to Germany to train on the Ju87 and served throughout the Mediterranean war. His notable kills included the Greek freighter Ioanna (1,102 tons), the British tanker Helka (3,741 tons), the Australian destroyer Waterhen (1,090 tons), the British gunboat Cricket (645 tons) and the British minelaying submarine Cachalot (1,520 tons).
Giuseppe Cenni was appointed captain and placed under the command of Squadron 239th Autonomous (with Ju-87B-R2 “Picchiatelli”) divers November 24, 1940. Basic sull'Aeroporto of Lecce-Galatina (South of Puglia), participated in bombing attacks in beaten in Greece and Yugoslavia.

The 7/12/1940 Cenni still under the command of Squadron 239th is transferred in Galatina (Lecce) and from there begins the actions of war on Yugoslavia and Greece. Many are the targets hit and destroyed, including camps, warehouses, airports, bridges, roads, posts and anti ships (freighter Ioanna).

The Italians received 50 ex-Luftwaffe Ju-87B-2, Ju-87B-2/Trop and Ju-87B-R2 machines in the summer of 1940.

Throughout the 5 November, to support the movement of the army you had available in Albania, 31 Sm79, 24 SM81, 47 Fiat G50, 46 FIAT CR42, 14 FIAT CR32 and 25 IMAM Ro37. They were also added the forces that came to 4 ° Zone territorial air in Puglia, which then become the 4 th Air team with 35 ° Squadron bombardment by sea on Cannot Z506 in Brindisi, 37 ° Squadron from Bombing on SM81 and FIAT BR20 in Lecce, on 47 ° Squadron from bombardment of Grottaglie on a CANNOT Z1007, the famous "Picchiatelli" Group of 96 ° dive-bombing in Lecce on Junkers Ju87B-R2, 2 ° Hunting on Fiat Group and Fiat G50 on CR42 two squadrons , 150 and 152 in Grottaglie and Bari, 41 ° Group by bombing on CANNOT Z1007 Bis, the 372 Squadron hunting on Macchi MC200 in Brindisi.
So in Puglia were available for operations on Greek territory, others 60 CANNOT Z1007bis, 23 CANNOT Z506, 20 JU87B-R2, 12 Macchi MC200, 33 FIAT G50 and 9 FIAT CR32.
In total, 135 bombers, 151 fighter and reconnaissance 25.

The choice of date of commencement of operations, at the gates of winter, was unhappy living advantage to the defenders: Up to 1 / 11 because the weather was so bad as to type of activity flight, the day 2 / 11 with time not splendid and fields Albanians reduced to mud and therefore not practicable, bombers and divers from Puglia alternated on important goals, the Corinth Canal and the port of Thessaloniki rail and ports of Corfu Kastoria and Gianina, but without good results (…) Despite the great number of sorties expect to center with two high-altitude aircraft on the pitch of a mortar, in the midst of a mountain gorge, it is difficult even today, let alone with systems pointing Optical of 1940! Just given the nature of targets, and not having aircraft assault and tactical support, were hijacked Greek side all JU87 available, distracting them from the valuable task to escort convoys to Libya, a task which had proved particularly suitable (…)

For this last info, see:
http://xoomer.alice.it/vespa21/greciaa.htm

Greetings, Stebas.

I have found fewbut interesting, other information on Stuka Italians in front of Greek.
Based in Lecce, 97 ° Group continued to conduct raids through the channel of Otranto.
The March 23 "Old Handles" of the 239th surprised a convoy off the coast of Corfu, claiming the sinking of a ship and damage to another.
One of the older pilots of 97 ° Group, Captain Giueseppe Cenni, had recently developed a new technique of attack against surface ships.
After noting that "Picchiatelli" available probably would never be in sufficient numbers to enable to conduct attacks in the classic style Stuka perfected by the Luftwaffe (that is, a continuous succession of aircraft diving in a steep beaten by high altitude and each cardinal point to confuse and overwhelm the enemy defenses), Work and opts for a low angled beaten at high speed until very low.
The bomb had to be released in horizontal flight, so that the inertial push forward were the "bounce" on the surface of the water (in a manner similar to a stone plate launched on the water surface) of the first strike against the hull of the target and explode.
Indeed, what had made brief was to anticipate many months is the technique of "bombing to bounce" adopted the same purpose by the Americans in the Pacific south-west, is that even more famous (and certainly more sophisticated) developed by Barnes Wallis for the incursion of "Destroyers of dams" of May 1943.
One of the first victims found the method of attack "Outline" was the merchant greek Susanna (or Ioanna ?) from 932 tons, sunk by the same Cenni off Corfu on April 4 with a full hit.
Admitting the loss, the Greeks (deceived themselves from a low altitude Stuka attack) attributed to "a torpedo plane"!
And in a similar action during the third and last attack against enemy ships the same day, 239 ° Squadron struck the ship of Greek navy May, claiming it was a destroyer, although in reality it was a small gunboat from 240 tonnes the time of World War I!
These affondamenti represented indeed the swan song of "Picchiatelli" as autonomous actors in the theatre of war in the Mediterranean, since less than 48 hours later, Hitler's troops invaded the Balkans.

I think that these particular espisodes are very suitable to create some ship attack missions in your campaign.

Greetings, Stebas.

50th POST!
Anyway, looking nice. I like flying the gladiator!