Thanks for the replies.

I want to keep the Mistel as the target. I like the mushroom cloud effect and the "Don't get too close!" challenge.

I couldn't get the PE-8 with the 5000KG bomb to work. I place it on the map with only one waypoint (takeoff) or with zero fuel to make it stationary and it drops it's bombload as soon as the mission starts. Weird. Also, it gives the same effect as the Mistel and the Mistel is smaller and able to fit better under some of the structures needed to make a bunker or what-have-you.

I like the Mistel as a target. The only problem is that you can't place it too close to a runway or it "gravitates" there automaticaly. You need a minimum distance from a runway to have it work the way I want.

I've been playing around with it some more, you can make nice ammo dump or nuke lab scenery, that's not hard, but I just can't build anything that will defeat a 500lb bomb. Too bad. Would have been nice to be able to build hardened targets that required precision hits with heavy bombs. Good mission building possibilities would open up.

Hey Beirut, thanks for this strange toy!

I think I found a way to do many things with airplanes on ground. Key point: place ANY airplane to take off (not on airfield), place a glider in front also to take off . None will take off because the glider can't. Key no 2. :You can hide all of them under some buildings which are already destroied. Some buildings even if destroied look good and peaceful. If the buildings are destroied the planes will not instantly explode.
Here it is the example:

[MAIN]
MAP NWEurope/load.ini
TIME 12.0
CloudType 0
CloudHeight 1000.0
army 1
playerNum 0
[Wing]
r0100
g0101
g0102
[r0100]
Planes 1
Skill 2
Class air.B_25J1
Fuel 100
weapons 12x100lbs
[r0100_Way]
NORMFLY 50467.86 37066.25 500.00 300.00 &0
GATTACK 48204.69 36852.19 100.00 300.00 &0
NORMFLY 42639.81 36284.71 500.00 300.00 &0
[g0101]
Planes 1
Skill 1
Class air.HE_111H6
Fuel 100
weapons 4xSD250
[g0101_Way]
TAKEOFF 48169.84 36852.59 0 0 &0
[g0102]
Planes 1
Skill 1
Class air.G_11
Fuel 100
weapons none
[g0102_Way]
TAKEOFF 48217.29 36851.52 0 0 &0
[Chiefs]
0_Chief Armor.2-T40S 1
[0_Chief_Road]
60911.88 34523.77 120.00 0 17 2.0833334922790527
48764.23 36692.45 120.00
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
37_bld House$IndustrialFactoryWarenHouse1 0 48215.68 36842.09 540.00
38_bld House$IndustrialFactoryWarenHouse1 0 48179.89 36842.84 540.00
39_bld House$IndustrialFactoryWarenHouse1 0 48180.80 36861.99 540.00
40_bld House$IndustrialFactoryWarenHouse1 0 48215.46 36861.99 540.00
[StaticCamera]
47973 36849 10
[Bridge]
[House]

Way cool ideas, Beirut and Dunkelgrun. Tonight I'm going to try making an ammunition ship. Should be able to hide the wings/tail whatever sticks out easily enough.

I've got a coop
4 Do-335s w/G-10 support attack heavy weapons facility
I've got a ntrk file, but cant upload (yourfilelink. is down) but will upload later

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Originally posted by Saunders1953:
Tonight I'm going to try making an ammunition ship. Should be able to hide the wings/tail whatever sticks out easily enough.

So far, every "solid" object I've placed over the Mistel mnakes it explode. Aircraft hangars with open doors are okay and so are bridge spans, but if you place a factory or other closed building over it... insta-BOOM! My guess is a ship will explode as well, though I haven't tried it yet. Bummer, ammo ship sounds great!

quote:

quote:
Originally posted by Saunders1953:
Tonight I'm going to try making an ammunition ship. Should be able to hide the wings/tail whatever sticks out easily enough.


So far, every "solid" object I've placed over the Mistel mnakes it explode. Aircraft hangars with open doors are okay and so are bridge spans, but if you place a factory or other closed building over it... insta-BOOM! My guess is a ship will explode as well, though I haven't tried it yet. Bummer, ammo ship sounds great!

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Dang!

hey what makes the "mushroom cloud"? and i only have pacific fighters so can i sub a plane instead of the ju-88?

hey i wil post pics of my go later i hadta use a b-29 with 2000 pound bombs and i also pt train cars number 8 i think all through the factory it make for a nice red after flame

ok here they are

how do i make the pictures bigger?

Hey slo, you have to resize them in your photoshop, paintshop or whatever utility you are using for that.

Nice effect! Are you having the aircraft spawn in the building after a certain period of time (and hitting something--like the building) and exploding, or just setting it in there waiting to hit it with a strafing attack?

P.S. The mushroom cloud is made by the Mistel, the German's remote controlled Ju 88.

well i hadta use a b-29 i only have pf so how do i keep the blasted thing from rolling through the frickin walls? how do you keep your plane in the building cause if i dont get to target with in bout one minute it goes through the wall.
i did what you said just putting the takeoff waypoint but still right through the wall

o yea and what kinda bomb are you using on the ju-88? biggest thing i can find in pf is 2000pounders
i will hopefully have the whole il2 series soon enough... well soon as the "platinum dvd" comes out

It actually called a Mistel--it's not a Ju88 per se---there is no cockpit just a pointed nose. A modified FW 190 flies it near to the target, like the Betty does an Ohka bomb, and releases it and guides it to target. If you only have PF standalone, you probably don't have it.

As for your B29 hitting the wall, you must have placed it on a slope. (I assume you have it set for 0 alt, 0 speed and 0 fuel--or at least as many zeros as it will let you set it for.) Try finding a flatter place and see what happens. You can test flatness by using the test runway #3--where the ground is not flat, the runway will disappear.

o well you said set it too takeoff and that was all and when u do that its already 0 alt 0 speed but you didnt say nothin bout fuel so what is the mistel just a big frickin bomb? more than 2000 pounds? well 4000 pounds cause thats what b=29 drops when you shoot it

Look at the pic, the Mistel is a pilotless Ju-88 with some 3000 kilos of explosives in the nose.

so the b-29 crew aint gonna bell after a few seconds if theres no gas ? cause i tried somthing like this once and they did
will this only work with the mistel because it has no pilot and it is the bomb?

it doesnt work for online dogfight maps

i made a small track just for myself where i hid a mistel in Nagasaki and made one B29 bomb it

KABOOM Great mushroom shaped cloud YEEEHAA

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Originally posted by general_kalle:
KABOOM Great mushroom shaped cloud YEEEHAA

KABOOM 100.000 dead people YEEEHAA. What a fun, mmmm?

It's nice to recreate historical situations, but we shouldn't frivolize them. After all, these things are still dangerously hanging over our own heads.

Enola Gay crewmen were doing their duty, and were certainly relieved thinking they were ending a war and saving the lives of many thousands, maybe even millions, of their compatriots. But I doubt they ever cried YEEEEHAAA in the process. They'd rather be astonished and, probably, scared.

So, if you want realism, next time you see that big mushroom, instead of YEEEEHAAA, cry OH SH1T, and historical accuracy will be preserved.