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Ah, finally a campaign thats situated in my homeland!! i'll definitely download this! Thanks a lot!  |
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Hi Mariskal,
Sounds like a great campaign, looking forward to it. Just to let you know that Tchaika over at http://www.france-simulation.com/index.php?op=edito has done some Gloster gladiators of No.263 sqd as well as Norweigen Gladiators plus som Hawk 75 which were captured intact by the Germans. I was hoping he would do some Hurricane of No.46 sqd, he may still do in the future. I played withsome of his other Hurricane skins and did these for my home use.   Here are a couple of pic found on net of 46 sqd   yours stu (oose) |
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Stuartoose, Thanks for the heads-up!
1Java_Serval has made a great skin pack for the Hurricanes that will be part of the release. I've been working myself on creating the ones for the RAF 263, but I just downloaded Tchaika pack for it and they are what I need. I've been playing with the idea of expanding the campaign to include the first deployment of RAF 263 sqn to Lake Lesjakog and have the player to flight Gladiators from a frozen lake, then to be evacuated and return with RAF 46 (Hurricanes). It would add about 5/7 missions to the campaign, putting the grand total around 23 missions. These campaign will cover the whole story of the RAF detachement to Norway in 1940. What do you guys think? Should I do the whole thing? ###################### My Campaigns can be downloaded at Mission4Today.com http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=368 Lake Lesjaskog - Gladiators over Norway / Battle for Ceylon / RAF 46 Sqn Norway RAF Hurricanes over Russia / Corsarios Catrachos / Hurricanes Over Norway |
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Hi Mariskal
I would prefer it if you did 2 versions, 1 with the extra Gladiator missions and one without (you could put them in the same download). Or have the Glads as a bonus mini-campaign The reasons are that I generally don't like it when you switch planes in the same campaign (unless they are substantially similar types of machine) - I think it weakens the identity of the campaign. When you think about it, most people like to refer to a campaign as "That great Spitfire campaign" or "that great Hellcat campaign" etc. As soon as someone has to explain a campaign as "that one where you start in the P-39 then go on to the P-47 then you go on to etc." it always sounds a bit convoluted and less appealing (personally speaking) Also I hate flying Gladiators because of the restricted view, so it would certainly put me off. Still, I certainly can't speak for everyone, so as ever, go with what you think is best. _________________________ It is bad enough that a grown man should spend the greater balance of his time playing a game on a computer. It is yet worse that he should spend the remainder of his time arguing about it on the internet. |
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Phil,
I'm sure you make a valid point from the perspective of the player. But remember, any pilot that survived long enough ended up in many cases with a different aircraft. Imagine the delight of a Razorback pilot being given a Mustang or the Hurricane pilot getting a Spit. I remember playing one of the original fighter campiagns in IL2 Sturmovik and gpoing from a Yak to a LaGG to a MiG to a late Yak. Each plane had different characteristics and gave me an new edge each time I changed. I personally enjoyed that. I'm not disagreeing with you here, just saying that in real life many pilots would have changed models at some point of the war.  A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, thank a veteran. Mission 4 Today the place for all things IL-2/FB/PF/46 |
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I understand what you're saying beebop. And at the end of the day my opinion is no more valid than anybody else's.
I just think that those of us who've been playing for a while (which I guess is the overwhelming majority) know what planes we like, and which ones we don't like, and tend to choose which campaigns we download largely on that basis. Also, I think that although the Glad and the Hurri are contemporaneous, they are very, very different machines. If I was a fan of the Glad I may not want to play a lot of Hurricane missions to reach my favourite ride. Glad+Hurri combined campaigns actually seem quite numerous, oddly enough. The ones I have downloaded I have judiciously deleted the Gladiator missions after studying the .mis files, which I'm sure would upset the authors!  _________________________ It is bad enough that a grown man should spend the greater balance of his time playing a game on a computer. It is yet worse that he should spend the remainder of his time arguing about it on the internet. |
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Glad to have been of help.
I must admit that I am split as well. I do quite like the idea of changing planes as in the glad you have to use different tactics avoid the fighter cover stick to the bombers, but once the Hurricane comes along you can start to go on the offensive and tackel the Germans head on. If I had my way I would start Skua II, then Sea Gladiator and then Hurricane but I think I leave those dreams to BoB. I will fly whatever!  Just to let you know if you update your Football War campaign you can use my Honduras and FAS Corsairs at flying legends, they are mostly the work of RONNCO but he let my put them up. yours stu (oose) |
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Hi Guys,
Bad news: My laptop is failing and I need to send it back to the manufacturer to get fix. I have a full back up of my disk, so no stuff will be lost, but certainly this campaign will get -once again- delayed. Update on where things are: I have created a few missions with the player flying Gladiators w/ RAF 263 in its first deployment at Lake Lesjakog. Still debating if to include them as part of the main campaign or not. I have also included Tchaika RAF 263 skins for its second deployment (when the Hurricanes were sent to Norway). So, this campaign will not die easy, but it is taking waaaay too long to be finished  ###################### My Campaigns can be downloaded at Mission4Today.com http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=368 Lake Lesjaskog - Gladiators over Norway / Battle for Ceylon / RAF 46 Sqn Norway RAF Hurricanes over Russia / Corsarios Catrachos / Hurricanes Over Norway |
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I like the idea of switching rides a bit in a campaign. I think it adds immersion, especially in the early war period. But, different strokes for different folks.
 It really would be a simple matter to have a with and without release.  ~ Welcome to the Ubizoo -Rewriting history every day "You are stuck on stupid. I'm not going to answer that question." - Lt. Gen. Russell Honore "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell |
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I loved your first Norway campaign...one of the most scenic, nice skins, too.I liked just flying around enjoying the view.
Looking to the new one on the killer Norway map. Thanks for your hard work! |
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Hi Everyone,
Did you think this project was dead? Well, no! After my computer crash and a bussiness trip to South America I managed to get it done The beta version of the campaign is complete, with tracks, missions and skins. I'm just waiting for the beta tester to answer he got the beta release  , make whatever correction might be needed and it will be out for you all to enjoy it... or endure it  ###################### My Campaigns can be downloaded at Mission4Today.com http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=368 Lake Lesjaskog - Gladiators over Norway / Battle for Ceylon / RAF 46 Sqn Norway RAF Hurricanes over Russia / Corsarios Catrachos / Hurricanes Over Norway |
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Wow... As far as I see, Dear Tchaika made some new skins for Hurricanes of RAF. Does possible download this skins somewhere? I'm fan of Tchaika's skin, and I would like to obtain this one.
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Kuban_Zen,
My campaign release will include Hurricane skins from Serval (special skin pack he kindly made for this campaing) and Gladiator skins from Tchaika. I'll include pilot skins from Elephant as well. A lot of Tchaika stuff is available at flying-legengs and france-simulation. ###################### My Campaigns can be downloaded at Mission4Today.com http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=368 Lake Lesjaskog - Gladiators over Norway / Battle for Ceylon / RAF 46 Sqn Norway RAF Hurricanes over Russia / Corsarios Catrachos / Hurricanes Over Norway |
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Hi, Kuban_zen,
Sorry to say that the Hurricane skin are some that I made by manipulating Tchaika other Hurricane skins and are therefore not for public use. I tried to promt him into action but I know he has so much on at the moment and that Hurricane skins are not high on the list however I live hope. I just wanted some skins to comliment his great Glad skins I'll try to ask him if its ok to send them to you for private use only but he is not as regular at simulation francais as he used to be. Glad your back Mariskal looking forward to the campaign. yours stu |
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Dear Mariskal and Stuartoose, thank your for your answers. I downloaded "Hurricanes Over Norway" campaign (old version, as far as I see, based on "Net3Summer" map), and I like it very much. And I downloaded all Tchaika's skins from france-simulation.com, but I didn't find skins for Hurricanes except Belgian and Yugoslavian Hurricanes-I and some RAF skins for Hurricanes-IIc. I hope, sometime dear Tchaika will make more skins for Hurricanes of RAF for public use. Anyway, thank you very much. Give my regards to Tchaika.
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Mariskal.
Really looking forward to this campaign, but things have been quiet lately. Was wondering if you have any news ? regards slipper |
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It is not dead. Don't worry about it. The beta tester are trying to finish thing up to pass me the 'clean-up' version of the campaing by late this month. I should have then have some time in August to work on the corrections and hopefully (not guaranteed) release by late August. If not, then it might be mid-September as real life will get busy in early september.
Thanks for the interest and sorry for the lack of updates. ###################### My Campaigns can be downloaded at Mission4Today.com http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=368 Lake Lesjaskog - Gladiators over Norway / Battle for Ceylon / RAF 46 Sqn Norway RAF Hurricanes over Russia / Corsarios Catrachos / Hurricanes Over Norway |
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It's really amazing how complicated and time consuming this is. Ive been working on my east/west 1947 cmpn over japan for nearly 5 mos now, and am less than half finished. This despite spending alot of time at my "job" working on them on the computer that amuses me while I wait for people to buy used cars etc. Skinners, testers, research, all take a huge amount of time. I hope the next gen of FMB can be a little more automated somehow....like with my own robot to do stuff for me.
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Thanks both for your replies, i know how hectic things can get sometimes, and our hobby has to take a back seat, just to let you know your efforts are really appreciated, and for me keep this sim going. regards
slipper |
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My own campaign WIP (both parts) has taken nearly a year to complete.
 And yet I must put it on hold for 3 weeks in August as I go on a business trip.Once again, B50 |
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