ACTUALY I RATHER WAIT FOR A SIM THAT HAS GOOD GRAPHICS AND CAN ACTUALY SIMULATE CORRECTLY THE VTOL ABBILITY OF THE HARRIER

LIKE LOMAC

http://www.bobsyouruncle.net/mcflyhome.htm
There are some addon a/c for janes. I dont have the game so I cant tell you if they are good or not.

Yo. God is good, eh! And he expects us to be good. But if your not then hes gonna come down and bust your freakin' skull, amen.

thank you thank you

I have some goon news for all you AV-8B Harrier II fans. Thunder works has told me that there most likely expansion for there game based on the falklans campaign will be a USMC Harrier expansion

OK now thunder works said they will definately have anexpansion with the GR7 and AV-8B in like a middle ewast campaign. so yea



Woooo HOOOOO

there were studies done on the Av-8B operations during the gulf war. They're were more susceptible to IR guided weapns from their hot hengine/nozzle heat signatures. Theyre complex propulsion systems make them more vulnerable to AA SAM hits downing the aircraft.

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Originally posted by Voodoo__01:
there were studies done on the Av-8B operations during the gulf war. They're were more susceptible to IR guided weapns from their hot hengine/nozzle heat signatures. Theyre complex propulsion systems make them more vulnerable to AA SAM hits downing the aircraft.

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As they would be, considering what they're capable of.

-{R.F}- Ivan Dolvich

DId harriers ever viff during the gulf or any war or whatever you call it when they move the nozles so they can turn sharper ?

A LOOOONG, but interesting read.....


http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?p=282027#282027

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Very interesting stuff. Way to long thoe, but man i learned alof of stuff i didnt know ! Thanks Voodoo_01

ok i do want harrier too than please make it . evrybody likes to take off vertically, but in lock on the wishlist sucks we wish evrythng but no wish is coming true....
...or maybe the harrier for lock on is ready in 2008-2013....

Referring back to a a recent post speaking of "hovering around the battlefield" ... If any version of the harrier were to do this they would run out of fuel very shortly.

The Harrier is a good jet but is lacking in a few areas. First and foremost is RANGE. Even with both wingtanks the harrier has short legs compared to other conventional fighters. In the gulf war many a harrier were diverted because of lack of fuel and therefore lack of time on station. This is a kick in the gut when you're main reason to exist is Close Air Support.

Second, is AVIONICS... the harrier still carries the APG-65... an effective however out-dated multi-mode pulse doppler. This is why the USMC has outfitted all of their hornets with the APG-73 series.

Third, as mentioned before, the centrally-positioned engine is vulernable to attack by IR weapons.

I would like to see the hornet as an addition because it would add in U.S. carrier operations as well as a truly efficient multi-role fighter. If people want to say that they don't have access to the information to model the F/A-18 I'm sure they could get it if they wanted too... if developers can make a sim like Falcon 4.0 they can darn well model a hornet.

My 2C.

regarding the harrier, we can always fly that in this next game. http://www.thunder-works.com/news.htm
I dunno how realistic this sim would be, so far i am not that impressed (no offense, just my opinion.) From the videos and such, I don’t think the cockpit is clickable (which I can live with since I put up with that with lomac) but the FM seems a bit weird – maybe its because its still in developing stage. Regardless I’ll still buy it.

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I would like to see the hornet as an addition because it would add in U.S. carrier operations as well as a truly efficient multi-role fighter. If people want to say that they don't have access to the information to model the F/A-18 I'm sure they could get it if they wanted too... if developers can make a sim like Falcon 4.0 they can darn well model a hornet.

The hornet would be hard to add in due to the classified information like you mentioned- especially for ED the Russian company. Falcon 4.0 was able to make it realistic because most information about that plane is made public whereas the F-18 is not. Same goes with the F-15, but Lock On still modeled it and hence some parts like unrealistic.

Any speculation as to the Mirage 2000, rafale, eurofighter type aircraft? Maybe a little close to home.. I know this game has a much bigger market in Europe.

Those rather new aircraft, i suspect some info are still classified, won't be in a fully simulated game for a while. Maybe 20-30 years? lol We don't even have all the info for the F-14 tomcat and its going out of service!

what about the Mirage 2000? They already have a good non-flyable model...not to mention its just a kick-ass manueverable fighter... shouldn't be as hard to get that modeling inf.

I dunno if any informatio on the Mirage 2000 is still classified but it is actually very hard to add a new plane into the game. For example, when Flaming Cliffs came out with the Su-25T, it took them 6 months just to model one aircraft.

Well there's always Super-VGA Harrier if you're looking for a seemingly accurate harrier sim. Engines are far too powerful, however. But it does have leg up on the dynamic campaign; you control an assault force that has to take an island. Of course, you can let the computer handle that work while you just fly the harriers. Made 10+ years ago but it's still okay I guess. Need DOSBox to play it.

Hmmm...sounds like something you could download at underdogs.com maybe. They have all kinds of full versions of classic games and sims over there.