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One thing I'm not getting clearer on when I research in Google is how my CPU air cooler rates to others these days. I know that there are better air coolers on the market but how good is my CoolerMaster V8 on a scale of 1 to 10, if you had to rate it? Seems to keep my processor cool with mild to moderate overclocking in a 71F/22C room. How would you guys rate the V8? Should I have gotten a different cooler than I did? Scale of 1 to 10 please. Spare nothing, if you think I totally farked up getting it, let me know. My processor is the i7 965 Extreme on a Asus P6T Deluxe V2.
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http://www.frostytech.com/arti...rticleid=2314&page=5
says its alright. ---------------------------------- Flying online as 453_Whittle E8400 @3.8, 9800gtx+ Phenom II X4 B50 @ 3.4  Uni-joint / hall effect sensor stick guide: http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/uni_stick.pdf |
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Wow, that's exactly the site I was looking for but didn't find!! Thanks....
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Those results look suspect to me, the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme should not score lower than the Thermalright Ultra 120.
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Good point. They did use different fans in the tests, however, and the fan used on the TRU 120 was 9 dB louder at full speed than that used on the TRUE 120, which indicates that it was most likely flowing much more air.
Their conclusions contained: "You'll no doubt have noticed that the Ultra-120 Extreme fails to unseat the Ultra-120 from it's lofty spot, so we should reiterate that different 120mm fans were used in the testing of each model. Putting that aside, we thought the rounded base of the Ultra-120 Extreme might be handicapping it somewhat. The image at right shows the Ultra-120 Extreme after it was removed from the Frostytech Synthetic Intel test die. Approximately 25% of the CPU test die made no contact with the base of the Ultra-120 Extreme.... the heatsink still managed to post otherwise impressive thermal results however. The next step was to lap the base of the Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme. This helped flatten the convex copper plate significantly, but regrettably the heatsink fell from the lapping table and was sightly damaged before we could retest it. The thermal results can't be considered reliable after such a fall, so they were not included in the above chart. It was observed that temperatures decreased by an average 0.8°C post-lapping though. As to which Ultra-120 version is better than the other, we can't say. Each heatsink was tested with a different 120mm fan, and the results under those conditions were within 0.5°C - 3°C of one another. It could be the fan, it could be the heatsink. In any case, that level of geek comparison making is irrelevant. The Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme is an excellent lower noise heatsink for performance cooling Intel or AMD processors, no matter how you look at it." So it also looks like their TRUE 120 was of poor quality, with a non-flat base. ---------------------------------- Flying online as 453_Whittle E8400 @3.8, 9800gtx+ Phenom II X4 B50 @ 3.4 Uni-joint / hall effect sensor stick guide: http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/uni_stick.pdf |
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CPU coolers can't be considered in a "vacuum" (no pun intended). A particular cooler might be aces in on system and a dog in another. The effectiveness of any air cooler is depended on the size of the case, number of case fans, the placement and orientation of said fans and amount of drives and other obstructions in the way of the cooler. No, a well rated cooler might NOT do well if your case is underventilated, full of drives and spaghettied cable management.
On paper however, your cooler is well rated. Da Worfster |
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Yeah, exactly what i wanted to say. You also need to keep the shape of the cooler and orientation of the fan in mind with that. AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition, Foxconn nForce 590 SLI, 4x OCZ 2048MB EPP DDR2-800, 2x Club3D GeForce 8800GT 512MB, Be-Quiet 700 Watt Straight Power, Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit |
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Now that I've learned what is good, bad and ugly as far as temps, looks like it's a good cooler for me. I have my i7 965 OC'd up to 3.75Ghz from the factory 3.2Ghz using only the multiplier and no voltage increases above stock. And With the Prime95 ( large FFTs ) test going the temp stays in the mid 60C range. At rest under no load the temps are in the upper 30C range. After playing IL2 or Steel Fury tank sim my highs show the mid 50C range. So looks like I'm OK, got a better cooler than I thought.
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That still seems warm, but I'm water cooling. Cpu never gets above 40C and the 8800GTX's don't break 60C in a fairly warm room. So much better in the winter... My rad is undersized for the 88's, it kept the 79's much cooler. A bigger rad would mean a major overhaul, so I'm living with it.
Seriously though, are the i7's running hot? I never saw those kind of temps with my FX60 under a Zalman 9500. And the core 2's run cool. ? Now, don't go Navajo, come and let me know, are you all reet? |
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You can't compare water cooling to air cooling, that's the apples and oranges comparison. I don't think my temps are high at all for air cooling and that's compared to my older C2Duo E8400.
I would never water cool anything in a PC. I deal with water cooled things in my work all day long that use similar connectors and such that they use for PC water cooling and they leak all the time. Any temp ( under load ) below 50C is not doing you any good and will not increase the lifespan of a processor significantly. And even 50C to 65C temps seen by your processor on an every day basis would not stop it from lasting ten years. And who seriously keeps a PC for that long?? If I had the old Pentium Pro I had 10 years ago I would not be playing any current game I have except my old Virtual Pool 2 and my Hasbro Interactive Scrabble game. And both those titles are from 1999 and 2000 anyway. For an i7, 70C would not hurt it and 80C finally is considered getting too hot. Air cooled graphics cards regularly get up to 80C under load and they are unaffected. Does anyone play games all day long anyway? I'm a 51 year old man so I probably play games that bump my temps over 40C for about 4 hours a week!! That ain't much. So your PC internals get plenty of rest. |
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Thanks Morty, I know it's comparing apples and oranges, I was trying to be funny.
Back in the bad old days, I used to occaisionly see graphics artifacting in the neighborhood of 70C. There's still some advantage for overclockers going watercooled, but not like it was. I like the lower temps, but most of all, I've enjoyed tinkering with my rig. There's no other good reason to have shoehorned it all into a CM Centurion. Now, don't go Navajo, come and let me know, are you all reet? |
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+1 for water-cooling. Leaky systems are down to user inexperience and/or mismatched components. In 3 years use I have shifted an Alphacool block fom CPU to CPU without needing to drain down or uncouple anything apart from removing the block off the clips and re-applying paste. It's quiet, it's cool (28min 42max), it's small and it's totally leak-free.
One may say that CPUs get changed out fairly frequently to keep a gaming rig at the bleeding edge and that's true. What's also true is that they filter down and get re-used, at least in my area. The cooler they're run, the longer they last, and that has its place too. B |
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Nice to know but if air keeps you in the 40 to 50C range playing games I hardly think that's going to shorten the life of a CPU much. I used to have a AMD XP2100 Palamino processor on a rig that I built in 2001 that I used until early 2007 and it ran in the 50C range routinely. So six years is nothing to sneeze at.
Water being quieter is nice and all, but I am not bothered at all by the sound from my current rig or any air cooled ones in my past. So big deal. When I use my desktop I almost always use headphones anyway. You ain't talking noise that's going to keep anybody in your house awake at night or even noise that would get a complaint from anyone in your house either. So I fail to see how noise is a valid argument in the water vs. air debate. When the air conditioner or heater is on in my house they both make way more noise than my PC. Watch a show in your TV and you have more noise than any PC makes. So what????? |
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I don't think anyone was trying to convince anyone else to go water cooled, just pointing out that it is a valid option.
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