I'm using an old Radeon 9800Pro to play IL-2 1946, and at first it works quite well. Then after about an hour I start to get flickering, distorted textures, particulary on water. Then if I close the program, my windows screen has all kinds of colorful video distortion.

Could this be a problem with over heating, or maybe the newer ATI drivers are a little iffy with old cards?

Could be both... but the first is the one to check first. Open up the case and check whether the 9800's fan is running freely, and nothing's dusted up in there...

If that does not help or is not applicable, use a normal desktop fan to blow air into the open case while playing...

Good Luck

Thanks, Fooltrottel. I'll open it up to see if there's anything spinning...

The 9800's were very easy to overheat so that's most likely it. You will get better performance with older drivers on older cards, anything newer than 7.11 will drop frames on older cards.

Thanks, Ufuru. I was going to upgrade to the latest drivers, but now I'll take a set down!

Install ATI Tray Tools - It will show your card's temperatures in the taskbar.

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Originally posted by MaxMhz:
Install ATI Tray Tools - It will show your card's temperatures in the taskbar.

9800pro did not have a temp sensor unfortunately.

Oops didn't know that - Thanks! learned something new again

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Originally posted by MaxMhz:
Oops didn't know that - Thanks! learned something new again

Yeah, the messed up part is that the 9800XT did have a temp sensor and some 9800pro's we made on the 9800XT GPU and PCB, but the pro's could not activate the temp sensor, even after a bios flash to an XT for some reason. I had one of those pro's and was very annoyed by this, lol.

Go to www.cpuid.com

Download HWMonitor and if that reads a temprature, if not download and install PC Wizard from the same site, that will probaly get a temprature even if theres no temp sensor by reading the value of a diode.

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Originally posted by NDS_Camp.:
Go to www.cpuid.com

Download HWMonitor and if that reads a temprature, if not download and install PC Wizard from the same site, that will probaly get a temprature even if theres no temp sensor by reading the value of a diode.

Lolwut?! It's going to read a temp where there is no device in place to measure said temp?

Normaly it (PC Wizard) gives you 2 difrent temprature readings on the GPU, im hopping the second one will give him a reading on the temprature as it uses a Diode to mesure it.

No way to know if it works or not untill he tries it out.

Atleast he can see and monitor everything else with it and run tests/benchmarks with it to see if he can fin the problem.

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Originally posted by NDS_Camp.:
Normaly it (PC Wizard) gives you 2 difrent temprature readings on the GPU, im hopping the second one will give him a reading on the temprature as it uses a Diode to mesure it.

No way to know if it works or not untill he tries it out.

Atleast he can see and monitor everything else with it and run tests/benchmarks with it to see if he can fin the problem.

Yes there is a way to know if it works or not, it is known that there is NO temp sensor on the 9800pro, I said that earlier.... If pc wizard shows two different temps for a gpu that because that gpu has two temp sensors, the 9800pro has zero temp sensors.

You dont need a temprature sensor to get a temprature reading, some component/materials there resistance changes wen they get warm so yes it might be posible to get a temprature reading of it with out a sensor being there.

I think its a Diode that is used for a temptrature sensor normaly anyway, and dont know why PC Wizard comes with 2 tempratures, one thats that is the same as one in the NV panel and in HWMonitor and one from a Diode wich is a difrent (slightlty higher) temprature.
Could be its getting getting both from the same Diode but that one is a corected value and the other the actual mesured value.

Like i said, He should just give it a try, the program displays all kinds of hardware info etc so maybe he can find the problem that way.

Now that is stretching it quite a bit.

That would NOT be reliable at all. No sensor, no reading. Simple as that.

Didnt say it would be acurate but atleast you could see if the temprature would get much higher than it was at the start of the game.

And some of the later 9800Pro cards do have a temprature sensor in the GPU but still cant read it out.