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Originally posted by slugworth01:
My server browser tells me 70 servers with v1.4, 40 with v1.33. ASE reports a similar ratio. Maybe server admins are switching back and forth between patches a couple of time a day. Or not.


Lets not forget that the 1.4 patch for Linux servers isnt out yet - so some of those 1.33 servers could just be linux boxes awaiting the 1.4 patch.


sorry but i think your wrong 2 days ago i saw more 1.4 servers than 1.33 but now im seeing more 1.33 server than 1.4 and until ubi stops suporting 1.33 servers i shall be running 1.33.
 
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Hi, My name is DJ. You can find me at www.pwrplay.org
We have a website that we pay for which does OK in the farcry comunity in Australia. We run 1 server but most of our gameplay is on the internode servers one and two,who do a great job for us gamers.

I have made 2 post's on this subject.
Post 1 All seems good, lets see!
Post 2. People are leaving farcry! Please can we fix this.


I would like to ask a question please.

3 of my closest friends and myself pay to run a farcry website. We have competitions, give aways, and sacrafice large portions of our lives to try and do it better than the next guy. Why? We love the game! We love the community! So when people we have fought so hard to keep go and play FEAR, I ask myself WHY? And so therefor, I ask, am I voicing my worries on the right website? Should I be somewhere else? I mean, I really don't want to be having a go at anyone, but I LOVE THIS GAME, I LOVE THE PEOPLE, I HAVE WORKED SO DAM HARD, and the players are leaving. Can someone give me a link? I must surely be at the wrong spot?

Where do I ask for help? Cause all that seems to be here is abuse, excuses and sarcasm.

I run a clan.
It has 35 active members.
THEY ARE ALL ACTIVE
we do a dam good job


For the love of god
Someone tell me what I can tell my members!

or give me a link to where I should be.
 
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Some of you may know BoZ
He is the best player in the Aussie Community
On top of that, he is a dam funny guy.
He has recruited more people into clans than probably anyone in the farcry community.
Here is a quote from him.
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I've found that concentrating makes stuff all difference NOW For me anyways..

I reckon now youre just concentrating on a target with LESS results because ACCURACY doesnt seem to exsist, Where it USED to, But now the guns too (m249) eratic!.. So now if I'm lucky I can kill a bloke with 100 rounds.. *SiGh*..

I mean i've been up against Falcon and butcher and so on, and we're inches away from each other slapping 100 bullets outta the gun and then switching guns to eventually end up with the pistol to hopefully finish the job.. WTF?

Not all the time but alot more than should, i mean *Blech* so close yet SO FAR??.. Anyways have had more luck shooting poofy OICW.


I know ya'll think to give the patch a go, and i got nuffin against any of it sept for the change to the M249, WHY change it?.. it wasnt broke!, People were happy!.. And now it's just a large outta control juicer!, That occasionally juices.



lol... from the mouth of the man himself... What did he mean? Well How The F do We Know? We've been trying to decypher him for years! But I think he has a dam good point.

Its ment to dice, to splice and juice. Maybe even Juliete. Free set of steak knifes to the 1st 100 callers.

If your not 100% satisified in the first 30 days, FULL money back refund no questions asked ...........my butt!

Please Please Please, someone help us!

WTF is going on? Its all good and well to say, " ALLS GOOD! IGNORE THE WINGERS! WTF DO THEY KNOW ANYWAY?"

PwR are not a one night stand Clan. We are loosing players! WHO HERE IS GOING TO TELL ME ALL IS GOOD AND I SHOULD WAIT?
CUT THE ****!
ITS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER!
WE CAN ALL SEE THAT!

WE ARE NOT A FARCRY/OTHER GAME CLAN. We play farcry. This patch is destroyoying us. I have been asking for options and I think its dam well fare we get them. You want to supply us with a Godlike patch for our servers! well do it! But please give us something, anything, just for the love of god, say WHEN. We have been so dam patriotic for so long to Farcry. We have asked for so little. PLEASE, JUST LISTEN TO US AND GIVE US WHAT WE ALL WAITED ON FOR SO LONG FOR.
 
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^^ bout right

I said in a few posts earlier that the saw (M249) would have been better replaced with a stick !
 
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U bet its about right, and I bet I can get 50 people to post in 24 hours if u ask me to.
100 in 3 days. if needed.
But I ask.. WHY?

Is this the site or not? Where do we need the players to vote? Just tell me and I will get my community to turn up just as all the other community leaders will get their community's to turn up.

We need to fix this. I love a heap of the new features, but its no patch. Its no solution.

I want a patch that will be our last patch cause once the new Crytec game comes out, thats it.

So someone tell me, am I at the right site? If not, give me a link!
 
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i've said the same as well. they offered for us to tell them contructive criticism, but constructive or not they're not hearing any criticism. they don't want to hear that their work isn't enjoyable. they only want to hear bug reports so they can fix their joke of a patch.
 
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LMAO...

You are at the right site, I keep having to re-write a post as you lot have been posting all morning...

Bear with me half an hour then I will tell you what I can on the who what where when & why...

CuZ
 
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@ICC00L yes this is the right place to post.

It has been established that the SAW is (politely putting it) "less effective" then it was. But the SAW aside what else is bothering them or what do they want changed?
 
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i've said the same as well. they offered for us to tell them contructive criticism, but constructive or not they're not hearing any criticism. they don't want to hear that their work isn't enjoyable. they only want to hear bug reports so they can fix their joke of a patch.


Agree

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Couple points about the servers seen running. You must use ASE to really get an Idea of whats running. Using the Fc browser can and will limit the servers that show up depending on the version of the game U are currently running. Also a 60/40 or even 70/30 in favor of 1.4 to me is actually not a good thing for the propatchers. It shows that a good 30 to 40 percent of the players are most likely ACTIVELY against the patch. As was said about the possiblity of linux being the reason for some, I would say that there is many more servers that switched to 1.4 because they thought they "had" to or are too lazy and disheartned to switch back.(such as bp). And as noob as I think Drake is lol... he has a point. FC should have been allowed to die peacefully. Somebody said FC wasnt dead for them well Im sure alot of people feel like that, but unfortuneately they probably need some sort of therapy or help. If there were no more than 200 players on at any given time for any period over 10 minutes b4 the patch that means DEAD. Now half to 60% play 1.4 the rest 1.33? WoW Look at these forums there are like 15 maybe 16 different posters in this thread about 1.4, that shows people dont give a phak and cant be bothered to give an oppinion either way.
 
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Clear warning was given as to what would happen to the next person who made a personal attack...
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Congrats, the suspension is now a permanent ban.
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Hmm...
Been away for a few days nice to see that the thread didnt get bogged down with discussion and was left to constructive feedback...
Yes I am being sarcastic, I would have said that from my high horse but I could only afford a Shetland pony. Wink2

A polite reminder to all. Personal attacks never have been, nor will they ever be, tolerated on this forum.
Anyone else violating the forum rules we see them strictly enforced.

Right, with that out of the way, I'll try to clear up a few myths:

"Project FiXit" was the name of the patch team.
It wasnt. If you read the support documentation you will see that the Project FiXit teams contibution was the maps side of the patch. This started out as a completely seperate project, but with the goal of being released as part of the patch. It was never part of Project X and as has already been reported here, the naming of the maps was initially a smokescreen. We certainly expected them to carry different names on release, perhaps we should have made that clear to Crytek?

Why are the naysayers the villains and the ones who need to be open-minded and accepting of what's being pushed to them?
This thread has asked for constructive feedback.
So far in 12 pages I have seen less than 5 people bother to do this.
The rest appear to be as Coops says, based on lots of emotion and little experience of the 1.4 game.
Is asking you to play the game "as is" for a few days then come back here with your honest opinion, good or bad, so unreasonable?

they don't want to hear that their work isn't enjoyable. they only want to hear bug reports so they can fix their joke of a patch.
Well thanks for that. I hadnt heard of much criticism for what we did with the maps, so at least some are getting some enjoyment out of the patch...
Did it occur to you that if a bug was present that was affecting hit detection, it would be giving a false impression of the current weapons stats?
Kind of important in my book that we establish that early on.
Its important in my view that you clear the clutter out of the way so that you can see what issues remain.
For the record, no lag or ULOST was witnessed during beta testing, quite the opposite in fact.
I know for a fact that some 1.4 servers were configured incorrectly; that impacted performance.
I also know that the network that provides the community managed UBI servers was suffering problems for the last few days.
Some members of the community have been working hard to try and establish the best server config for the patch. More news of this later, but hopefully that will help wipe the slate clean so we can see what he performance is for the majority of people.

The patch team and beta testers didnt care about the community, they put out the patch just to enhance their own style of play...
When I read the latter half of that, I was almost crying with laughter Too Happy
1st, Please stop harrassing members of the 22ndSAS and F+B (UBW) in servers. Their credits in the read me come from the testing of ONLY the maps. Which with over 60 versions produced and tested, we are endebted to those who assisted.
With the exception of those credited in the game titles, none of them got to test the maps with the new scripts so give these guys a break and come and vent your frustrations here. As long as you stay within the rules you are more than welcome.

2nd Rest assured that the patch was produced by people who love the game as much as anyone else here. There have been some great posts while I'm typing this. Finally some feedback to add to that given earlier by Warrior and a couple of others.
The reason for asking for the feedback is to get a true impression of peoples opinions, like I said earlier in this thread, "I dont like it" is a waste of a post. "I dont like it because...." is actually making a contribution.
Trust me when I say that there hasnt been a concern raised here yet regarding the balancing that wasnt voiced by at least one of the team during the Beta test.
While in my view some things were not done right, and I will keep my own council on what they were, I still feel that the overall balancing has produced a better and more varied game. It also provided a host of much needed GUI and server management features, as well as, (forgive me if I mentioned this already) some stunning reworks of the original maps. Razz
So my view based on feedback here so far? 1.4 isnt right, but it is almost there...

So where do we go from here?
To me the bigger problem we have at the moment is the community is heading off in at least 6 directions to my knowledge.
Imagine that. New players learning to play on official servers that play completely differently to the clan ones running various SSMs or mods? Imagine the cheating accusations that will cause.

IMO the only way that this community will survive is if we follow these steps:
1. Actually try to play with 1.4
2. Establish if any bugs are present then constructively analyse what was done well and what was done badly in the patch.
3. From the feedback the community should then try and agree a comon baseline for future use. Whether this be 1.4 Blink through SSM or a future patch would be up to Ubisoft.

Once you have a common baseline back, the admins can add their own specific tweaks as they do now.

So far I have heard the following complaints:
1. Lag/Ulost
2. Mouse control
3. SAW
4. M4
5. Stamina
6. Player health/armour stats

Have I missed any?
As always, further feedback and comments are welcomed.
If you have additional questions I will either try and answer them or get answers to them.

Cheers all

CuZ

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Somebody said FC wasnt dead for them well Im sure alot of people feel like that, but unfortuneately they probably need some sort of therapy or help.


Add me to the list...
What was it Tomatoes said?
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Sign me up...

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I think that the snipers should have been left as they were but with no armour.

I think the engies should have been left as they were but with the new "get no new ammo from ammo point" thing. and maybe the longer detinationion of the bomb as in 1.4.

I think grunt's should have been left as is but kept the new "no nades from ammo points" thing.
Maybe if people were worried, cut their accuracy to 80 % or something.

I like the new net code.

I want the consol hacks fixed.

I want admin to be able to get players guid in the admin consol.

And thats it. Its not a lot to ask.
Its not what other admins and players don't want.

Its really what we all thought patch 1.4 would be. Maybe we are to fault for not speaking up? I have been googling info for the past 6 months and until this patch was released, I must say, I have been kept in the dark. Who is to blame? The people that think they are in the loop? The people that want to be in the loop? Or just the players? Well, its the players that are peaved. So "who" in this SO CALLED LOOP is going to fix it? We the players sure as heck can't.
So thats why again I ask, lets cut the **** and find a fix. One person, and I mean 1, has to stand up and say, "yep, we are screwed. lets fix this!" Who is that person? In my job, I have to do it all the time. People respect that.
This is not a point of view,

This is a for gone conclussion.

Someone put their fricken hand up and say, yep, its not right, we will fix it.

and then we will say, " yay, good on em!" and life goes on



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thanks CuZtds_Lst_Stnd
U made your post at the same time as mine. Answered a few things but not all. As its 12.30 am here in aussie land. I'm off to bed. I ask all people that post here to cut the **** and ask for answers or for the PLAYERS to give answers. Night guys Smile
 
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What was it Tomatoes said?

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FarCry will die when they claw the Sandbox Editor out of my dead, bloated, maggot-infested hands, blow up my LAN and kill all my friends. And not a second sooner.


Sign me up...


Pfft, as far as Im concerned you were already heading up the group sessions. Hi Im Cuz and Im in FC denial..... lol


Theres a difference with loving the game (which i did) and realizing whether or not its dead. You can admit its dead and has been for sometime and still enjoy playing it. Smile anyways, no more posting just to see myself type...
 
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@Riz: ROLMFAO... Guess Im a gaming necrophiliac. Actually played COD2 for 1st time yesterday, doing a bit of research for OE2 (Everyone else knows how games other than Far Cry play, I was feeling the noob...) Anyways 1st training mission, looks loverly but oh so linear. 2nd mission head on attack? Why when Ive just found a sniper rifle and there is all that space to the left? WTF Collision Wall?!

Im Far Cry till I die...
Im Far Cry till I die...
I know I am I'm sure I am...
Im Far Cry till I die...
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1. I think that the snipers should have been left as they were but with no armour.

2. I think the engies should have been left as they were but with the new "get no new ammo from ammo point" thing. and maybe the longer detinationion of the bomb as in 1.4.

3. I think grunt's should have been left as is but kept the new "no nades from ammo points" thing.

4. I like the new net code.

5. I want the consol hacks fixed.

6. I want admin to be able to get players guid in the admin consol.

And thats it. Its not a lot to ask.
Its not what other admins and players don't want.

1. Its an option but this is always the danger with asking for opinions; do u like A or B? Err... C please Mean Happy When you say as is, in what terms? Health? No MP5? Different rate of movement with gun? Can you elabortate please?

2. As above... Longer detonation? Huh? Blink

3. I get the complaints about the SAW, but dont you feel that the changes to the OICW and AG36 have opened out weapons selections?

4. If you get a good connection and a good server config it seems sweet for a lot of people, its those suffering we need to hear from to see if we can help or find out why.

5. You never know, but I dont see any further changes happening in this area. A number of know cheat cvars have been reclassified and are now unavailable. A suprising number were not changed, but the majority of these are PB detectable.

6. Mind me asking why? You can ban them from the console, you can also retrieve the partial guid with PB power. You can recover the full Guid from the server logs.

As for the who and the how and the loop d loop, I cant speak for either UBI or Crytek on this, though I have asked those who can. If it needs to be done from within the community the general balancing you are looking at can be achieved.

Not the direct "Me, hands up I will do it" you were looking for, but that is in part as a result of your very stute comment re managing expectations.

CuZ
 
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I played Far Cry this morning online for about 2 hours. 2nd time I've played online, first time was for about 15 minutes in a TDM. This time it was Assault.

I got killed quite a few times by the SAW. As far as I can tell the game seems to play fine. I'm sure if I'd be playing a game for a year or two and they suddenly cut out my favorite weapon or changed its stats, I'd be a pretty peeved, but in the long run there are other weapons available.

To me game play in multiplayer for games like this is never really enjoyable. People don't use teamwork, they just run ahead one and a time and get blown to pieces by the other team that is defending. That being said I pretty much enjoyed myself as much as I could under the circumstances. In fact I enjoyed it enough to waste a good couple of hours of my morning on it.

The only major problem I have with the 1.4 patch so far is the AI being able to see you through tents in single player and shoot at you. It wouldn't be that bad if you could see through walls too. This is a MAJOR issue considering the patch wasn't supposed to interfere with single player. (You guys spent all that time play testing it in multiplayer, should have had at least one guy play it from start to finish in SINGLEPLAYER).

Anyway, for the guys at Crytek that spent hour upon hour working on the patch, good job guys.

Sure there are things that could be worked on. Just remember though, you can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time.

Edit: Changed to clarify content.

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We the players sure as heck can't.


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How do you think the "in the loop people" got to be in the loop? Everyone who worked on the patch is a player from the very beginning and is still playing now. There is no boardroom of corporate suits that decided that the game needed to be patched and lets assign a gaggle of programmers who know nothing about the game to do the coding.

People who have been involved in every aspect of the game from server admins to mappers and modders, to "hardcore" players worked on the patch. None of these folks work for Ubisoft, they are players LIKE YOU who wanted to make a difference in improving the game.

You can't please all of the people all of the time. I think Abraham Lincoln said it better but all will agree that the game had enough problems that online numbers had dropped to a tiny fraction of the numbers who bought the game. This patch was an effort to bring back those who left and make the game better for those who stayed.

Edit: LMAO Barak. We both used the Lincoln quote while posting at the same time.
I don't understand the issue with single player. Bullets through cloth?
 
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I don't understand the issue with single player. Bullets through cloth?

The tents, for example at the defence spawns on Mango are no longer solid, bullets pass through them like they do the huts on DAM...

Reading his other post I think he is saying that they no longer act as an obscuring object. Best to ask where to try it in the other thread...

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Reverte the changes done on the M249 and I think you will find alot of people happy.

Then a 1on1 engie vs grunt will come down to skill and not just nukes and rocks.

Now I'm not the best even though I'd like to think so.. Wink With decent hd I can hit something.. and with good hd I can hit Jack Carver clones.

And now.. laying down with M249 about 200m from my target which is a sniper laying in clear view and unaware of me.
I start firing in short bursts making 1-2 hits tops, depleting my clip and making me reload at this point he's aware of me and I have to start moving while fireing..
I never knew how this ended cause all this short clicking crashed Far Cry.. Shady
But I can be sure that I would most certainly die, now if this was the same weapon which was used to kill people and not notify them that you are there with intent to kill... That sniper Would be spawning and running out pissed as.. (well u get they general idea) to get me. Eventualy he would probably get me since all it takes is one shot from he's choice of locations.

Atm the m249 would do greater use as throwing weapon or.. a choking weapon.. or.. a melee weapon. Razz
Or even better.. throwing the bullets at them!!
Okey.. I got abit carried away but still I hope that you people get my point.

Oh and I don't just play grunt.. Before 1.4 I would really enjoy pissing people off as a engi and eventually as a sniper if I was feeling lazy. Wink2
 
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Play bf2142 and you'll forget all about . . . daum, what game was that?



 
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