I've got ace on every mission but Paris & Berlin. I've done the Paris dozens of times but the best I can do is Elite. I have shot down the # of planes required for Ace (10) and destroyed the ground targets and the German Generals 3 boats but I just can't get it all done in the Ace time limit of 13:30 (I think thats it). Has anybody got Ace on this mission and do you have any tips?

I'll work on Berlin after I get Ace for Paris then I'm sure I'll be posting another just like this!

Thanks for any help.

U didnt notice? The ace time and the kills dont have to be on the same run of the mission. This is my theory: Completing the mission in less then ace time wont give u the medal, if u havent got the kill numbers met, but the next time u run the mission get the kills without the time goal met and u may still recieve the medal. just a theory but i think it has happened for me

Your theory is correct my friend... I had already accomplished ace-time, but still needed to complete all bombers...
Just now shot all of them, did not make the ace-time though..

Still got the medal
Some theory

I just thought if you shot down way more than the ace limit and your time wasn't that bad you'd get ace..

I did notice for some of the other missions that I did not meet the Ace time but still got the medal, I presumed because I destroyed more targets than necessary. However, on the Paris mission I have also destroyed more targets than required but have not received the medal.

If you recall the Paris mission; you have 15 mins (I think) to complete all assignments UP TO & including destroying the AA guns on the Eiffel Tower. Then you have about 2 mins to get the German General, then I think 5 mins to shoot doewn the German replacement squadron (and I think you have to shoot down 5 of them for the mission to be succesful but I'm not sure. Seems sometimes I have to shoot down more.)

Anyway, I can complete EVERYTHING in the time alloted up to fighting the replacement squadron.
And I have succeded in doing it a few times AND destroyed the minimum # of planes/ground targets/boats but not received the medal. Thats why I think it's the Ace times thats holding me up.

So UCB, is what you're suggesting that I run through it once and get as many kills as possible then run it again and try to finish as fast as possible?

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

Well I've been playing for about 4 hours and have completed the mission numerous times, both with destroying the minimum required targets and without and my best time was 17:05 but still no medal!

According to the rating thing at the end of the mission, you must shoot down 10 planes, destroy 200 ground targets, & sink 3 boats. On one mission I shot down 11 planes, destroyed 209 ground targets, and sank the 3 boats in 20:14 but was still only Elite. I played numerous times after that and, thinking speed was the thing, would kill the German General before he ever got to the boat but I think maybe that was keeping me from getting the medal, don't know for sure.

Anyway, I was thinking that maybe you have to complete the entire mission in one shot, no starting again at checkpoints if you get shot down or run out of time or whatever. Any thoughts on that?

Oh man!!! I've been playing ALL DAY on the Paris mission and no luck! I just got done flying the entire mission in one swoop, no crashing, no restarts, etc. I shot down 11 planes, destroyed 211 ground targets, & sank the 3 boats, all in 17:31. Still no medal!!!

I just don't see how I could do it any faster. I shoot down fighters in between destroying the tanks heading for the Arch de Triumphe, and shoot down a couple more after destroying the AA on the Eiffel Tower. I end up shooting down about 5 of the replacement German squadron and it's says I've completed the mission.

I'm at a loss here guys, done everything I know to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated as my wife is really tired of hearing that hillbilly Joe talking **** all the time...lol!

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Originally posted by ucb1976:
U didnt notice? The ace time and the kills dont have to be on the same run of the mission. This is my theory: Completing the mission in less then ace time wont give u the medal, if u havent got the kill numbers met, but the next time u run the mission get the kills without the time goal met and u may still recieve the medal. just a theory but i think it has happened for me

I don't see how I can complete the Paris mission in less than the Ace time when the next objective does not appear until you finish the task at hand. The ONLY way I see it being done is shooting down the entire replacement squadron (10 planes) within the 5 mins allotted. As it is, I shoot down about 5 or 6 (if I'm lucky) but get the other 4 or 5 in between the sub-missions.

Again, I'm at the end of my rope on this one.

You say you shoot down the planes on the way towards the tanks heading to the arc de triumphe... I'd say leave them and concentrate on the tanks fast!!

I remember struggling with this not because of killing the planes but killing all the ground targets fast!

Hey Rock.

The reason I shoot those planes down is to get to the total of 10 because there's no way I can shoot down 10 planes at the end against that replacement squadron.

Like we've both said, if you meet or exceed the minimum # of planes/ground targets/ships but don't beat the Ace time, on some missions you get the medal anyway. That's the way I've approached this. I can't think of any mission where I didn't meet the minimums and got Ace. Maybe this one is different though, I'll give it a try.

Thanks for your input.

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Originally posted by rklepper:
Oh man!!! I've been playing ALL DAY on the Paris mission and no luck! I just got done flying the entire mission in one swoop, no crashing, no restarts, etc. I shot down 11 planes, destroyed 211 ground targets, & sank the 3 boats, all in 17:31. Still no medal!!!

I just don't see how I could do it any faster. I shoot down fighters in between destroying the tanks heading for the Arch de Triumphe, and shoot down a couple more after destroying the AA on the Eiffel Tower. I end up shooting down about 5 of the replacement German squadron and it's says I've completed the mission.

I'm at a loss here guys, done everything I know to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated as my wife is really tired of hearing that hillbilly Joe talking **** all the time...lol!

I think this guy deserves a medal for putting so much effort in to it

Lol! Well I do appreciate that sentiment. Thanks LGorrit.

Just did it again in 14:14 but only got 7 planes and didn't sink the generals boats, I killed him before he ever got to them to save time.

So Rock, when you aced this do you remember if you destroyed the Generals boats or did you kill him before he got to them? I figure that 2 mins they give you to kill him is wasted since he doesn't get to his boats till there is less than 50 secs left, at best it could only be done in 1:30 so I just kill him right away and save that time. But maybe ya gotta sink those boats to get Ace.

Oh well, back at it!!!

Well, I tried a couple more times, once I did 10/10, 212/200,& 3/3 (planes shot down/minimum requirement, # of ground targets destroyed/minimum requirement, & # of ships or boats destroyd/minimum requirement) all in 15:32 but was still only Elite.

Then I did it as fast as I could and got 10/10, 211/200, & 0/3 (I didn't go for the boats to save time, killed the escaping General before he ever got to the boats) and finished in 13:29 and still no medal!!!!!!

Somebody PLEASE help me out here! I don't see where I can shave any time off anywhere.

Thanks and Keep 'em Flying!!!

it would help me if someone posted the ace time shown at the end of the level. Also, it works like this for me, i never got a medal with ace time good and kill count bad, but I have got a medal with ace time bad, kill count good(meeting required # or better). To me this suggests the game remembers my ace time, but not my ace kill count. My conclusion, ace time limit met on completing mission needed FIRST. Then, targets destroyed number met/exceeded on LATER attempt. I honestly dont know the actual factors involved in awarding the ace, but i do know in my game if the time had been met on a previous run, it awarded the medal to me on a later run when i did other stuff right.

I agree with your assesment on getting Ace UCB. I too have noticed that, on some missions, I got Ace from destroying more targets than the minimum but not meeting the Ace time.

For the Paris mission the Ace time is 13:00. From the beginning of the mission, you get 12 mins to finish everything up to and including destroying the AA guns on the Eiffel Tower. Then you are given 2 mins to kill the escaping German General, then 5 mins to destroy the German replacement squadron.

I think there are 10 aircraft in that replacement squadron and I think that between you and your wingmen you have to down them all.
I have also noticed though, that after you destroy the AA guns on the Tower that there are German aircraft around, 4 I think, (if your wingmen have not shot them down) and the clock disappears and you apparently get "free" time to shoot them down. It seems to me that when I have shot all 4 down, (not my wingmen but me) when the replacement squadron appears there are 4 less planes, or a total of 6. I'm not sure about that, just seems like thats what happens.

So anyway, I have completed the 1st part of the mission in 9 mins, and then I kill the General before he even gets in the boats so as to save time (I kill him with 1:30 or more left on the clock). This makes a total of roughly 10:30 which would leave 2:30 to shoot down the replacement squadron.

As I said before, you are given 5 mins to destroy the squadron but I think, through playing this mission numerous times, that you must be responsible for shooting down 10 aircraft throughout the entire mission for it to end successfully. I say this because sometimes I have only shot down 4 or 5 of the replacement squadron but it said "Mission Accomplished" and other times I might shoot down 7 or 8 but it says "Objective Failed".
Who knows?!?! >>>(Please see last paragraph)

So what I'm getting at is I can get through the 1st 2 parts of the mission pretty fast but not shoot down any aircraft in between, then when I get to the final part I must shoot down all 10 of the replacement squadron for the mission to be successful and there's just no way I can do that in 2:30!

On the other hand I can shoot down some planes in between, like before destroying the tanks heading for the Arch D'Triumphe (sp?) and while destroying ground targets around the Eiffel Tower, but then my time suffers.


>>> That isn't correct because I have completed the mission successfully but only shot down 7 aircraft total. I did it in 13:29 that time (it's in a earlier post) but didn't get the medal.

Hello Blazing Angels Gamers out there.

My name is Bastian and I am from Germany.
So if my english has some misstakes, I am already sorry for that fact.

So here is my Problem.
I try to get the medal of the paris mission.
But I am not able to shot down enough ground targets TzO reach the 200 which are mandetory.
Allways when I shoot down a saveral number of targets, the game erases the rest.
So I always get a result of 192-195 targets at the end of the mission. This is not enough for the medal.
I know that there are people out there which are able to shoot down more than 200 targets at this paris mission.

Please explain me what I have to do to be that good.


THX 1000 times,

Basti

okay I am running into problems with this part of the campaign. I have read everything I can and I get the ace and all that. However, I can not get that far as I can not seem to script it to get through it. The game always ends with we are to late. I destroy the first set of tanks, then go after the area directly around the tower. I don't get past that phase. It seems I can not destroy the ground targets fast enough and I get distracted by the enemy fighters that come in to shoot me down. If I go after them, then I lose time for the ground targets and my group of pilots are not worth much help at all. So can some one supply with the basics so I can at least get through this thing. -- Thanks Don