The last moves were
32. b6 d5
33. d6 c7
34. c6 d5
35. d6

How is this a draw by threefold repetition?

Don't you think you're being a bit premature in crying foul? It's very unlikely that Chessmaster would make such a mistake.

Post the entire game, and I'll see if I get the same results.

Black could't have played his pawn to c7 And if black played 32...d5, then white can't play d6 in the next move. So those were not pawn moves and your notation is totally off and unreadable.


Besides a position doesn't have to repeat in 3 consecutive moves for a threefold repetition rule.

I wanted to poast the game, but I dont know how. Can I do a print screen?

Go to "Edit--Copy--PGN". Then come here and press Crtl+V.

I exited the game; however I did a print screen and saved it on a word doc. Can I post that? how?

The Post title "CMXI Cheated" is get people's attention. Don't jump all over me.

Was it a rated game?

Rated games are automatically saved in

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition\Data\Users\YourName\YourName's rated games.pgn


You have to save your screenshot as a picture (jpg file), upload it somewhere and post the link here. But we probably won't see the notation from the whole game there.

Yes, it was a rated game. I found the file "xxx.pgn". How do I post this?

Menu "File--Load" and load the proper pgn file. List of all your rated games will appear. Select the right one (it's probably at the end). Then copy the game and post it here like I showed you.

Open the pgn file (it's really a text file) with Notepad. Copy and paste the contents into your post.

[Event "Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition Rated Game"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2008.5.11"]
[Round ""]
[White "George"]
[Black "Mr. Chan"]
[TimeControl "1200"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO " "]

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.d4 d6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bxf6 exf6 7.Qa4+ Nd7 8.Bg2 O-O 9.Qa3 f5 10.Bd5 c6 11.Nf3 cxd5 12.cxd5 Nb6 13.h3
Re8 14.Qb3 Bd7 15.Nb5 Bxb5 16.Qxb5 Rc8 17.Qb3 Re4 18.e3 Qc7 19.O-O Ree8 20.Rac1 Qd7 21.a4 Qxa4 22.Qxa4 Nxa4 23.Ra1 b5 24.Rfc1
Rxc1+ 25.Rxc1 Nxb2 26.Rb1 Nc4 27.Rxb5 a5 28.Rb1 Ra8 29.Rc1 Nb6 30.Rc6 Nxd5 31.Rxd6 Nb4 32.Rb6 Nd5 33.Rd6 Nc7 34.Rc6 Nd5 35.Rd6
1/2-1/2

I probably didn't understand the threefold rule, but I'd like to hear your explanation, thank you.

Positions after 31.Rxd6, 33.Rd6 and 35.Rd6 are the same, so it's threefold repetition.

Two positions are considered the same if the pieces of same colours ocupy the same squares, it's the same players turn to move and all possible moves for either opponents are the same.

Two examples when positions look the same, but they are not

1.h4 h5
2.Rh3 Rh6
3.Rh1 Rh8
4.Rh3 Rh6
5.Rh1 Rh8

White can't claim a draw, because positions after 1...h5, 3...Rh8 and 5...Rh8 are NOT the same. After 1...h5 castling was possible for both sides and after 3...Rh8 or 5...Rh8 castling is not possible. So the position repeated only twice, not three times.


1.e4 e6
2.e5 d5
3.Na3 Na6
4.Nb1 Nb8
5.Na3 Na6
6.Nb1 Nb8


Positions after 2...d5, 4...Nb8 and 6...Nb8 look identical, but they are not the same. After 2...d5 white can capture en passant, but after 4...Nb8 and 6...Nb8 he can't. So the positions are not the same and white can't claim a draw.

You learn something new everyday, thank you.

The next time you have a question, you might want to post it as such... Chessmaster is not without flaws, but it doesn't cheat.

3 fold repetition rule can be tricky and it hapened on the highest level that it was interpreted wrongly.

See Morozevich vs. Carlsen game in Tal memorial.

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3476