I'm in school so almost no time to argument right now...

that being beaten to death is one of the fake propaganda movies... They die as fast as with a shot, except when it are newbies who are learning, and the movie where they were beaten to death wasn't true. The animal rights company whivh did it has later been prooven to have been drinking the Inuits who did it completely drunk... and the result was pretty much like that. And the majority of the seals are also being eaten and there are programs going on in the areas where they aren't and there they are starting to eat more and more, llike it was before to much easy money entered the competition...

Now I have 2 minutes to read my homeworks

My opinion is that we as humans (and undead some of us :P) must try to be something more. Yes it is true all animals are cruel. And all people also. But if you apriciate your life, you should apriciate others too. Seals don't do that. Humans do!

P.S.: And so does the undead by our unique undead way.

I think humans are the cruelest animals to have ever existed. Peple are some of the few species that kill and cause pain for fun not food. Because of us 2 species of plants or animals dissapear every DAY. I am a vegetarian, yet i eat cheese and eggs- so I'm not against food from animals- I kust don't wanna kill anything to get food out of it.
Let me give u some things to think about:
1. Imagine thet every time u wanted to eat meat u would have to kill the animal it comes from with your own hands. U wouldn't need to struglle with it or even cook it(someone lese would do that 4 u), u would just have to kill it yourself, stick the knife in it's throat, stain your hand with blood and watch it die. I'm sure that if that was the way in the World lots of people would stop eating meat.
2. Now imagine that we were not the top of the food chain, that there would be a species that regularly kills us indiscriminantly and then eats us. We would call them murderers, criminals, killers.
What do you think animals think of us?

That is what disneyfikation is

I live with animals. I kill my own animals for food, or my fathher kills them and I slaughter them, got it?

First of all, you are targeting the wronge people. Those who are bad are those who keep animals captured in a smal room for all their life, ead my first posts here, secobdly animals do exactly the same as we. If they think anything of us, other than keep away from them or that we are those nice folkes who give them food, it is that they wish they were just like us

Animals don't have terms for murders, criminals, or killers. They only know where they are in the food chain and were the others are. They, probably, think everything is about them, and simply want to survive like every living beiong does. Unfortunatly all must die one day, and those of the human food animals who live a good life, seal, whales, some sheep, cows, chicken and so one live a good life untill they die. Those you ought to fight are those who really do torture animals! The big shot firms who keep captured only for the money and give **** about how the animals are and how they die. They feed them with all kinds of chemical who knows what it does things, who make sure they get big and fat quikly, but in return they are walking around in pain and having a body that is like the very worste causes of fast food humans...

Those who live a free life and die quickly, like the seals, whales and all the other stuff these rather stupid so called protestors shout about (strange they don't go after those whit the really big money, ay?) live a good life for animals, and animals see no difference in humans and other predators, unless they realise they die quicker and whit less pain and those who have an easy life thanks to humans.

It really isn't anything to cry about. Humans are just as animalistic as animals, just in a more intelligent way ? that we, most of us, care about how the animals die or try to bull**** ourselves whit that we do care how they die... But how many millions don't eat the animals mass produced under terrible sircumstances and then say buhu... look! They are killing seals and whales who lived a great life and die quickly! We must stop them. Please honney, pass me that mass produced chicken that was fill whit more chemical substances than we can immagin and never saw the light of the sun

You are fighting the wronge thing!

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u would just have to kill it yourself, stick the knife in it's throat, stain your hand with blood and watch it die. I'm sure that if that was the way in the World lots of people would stop eating meat.

I'm sorry to say that you are very wrong about this.
If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food, wich meant killing the animals that it came from, and they ate meat without hesitation. Was this because vegetables and such was not availible to them? No.
I agree with Justice also. I've seen many sheep get killed, and I still eat meat.
Justice is also right, you are fighting the wrong cause. Why not fight for those chickens who spend there lives in a small room laying eggs, and getting all kinds of pills to speed up the process, so the farmer can get more money?
Justice has said that perfectly:

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But how many millions don't eat the animals mass produced under terrible sircumstances and then say buhu... look! They are killing seals and whales who lived a great life and die quickly! We must stop them. Please honney, pass me that mass produced chicken that was fill whit more chemical substances than we can immagin and never saw the light of the sun

Modern man in a nutshell

I agree with you Just. I said most people would stop eating meat if they had to kill animlas for it. I have nothing against u guys. I myself grew up on a farm. If you're okay with eating what u kill that's perfectly fine. But most peple don't give a second thought about what they eat, if you have to kill animals do it as painless as posible and as humane as possible. And don't overkill! And yes these "meat factoryes" have to be stopped first, it's awfull for the animals and the meat is bad for us.
I'm not saying people should stop eating meat, I'm just asking to think where the meat is coming from.
And we also need to do something about endangered species, and even some species that aren't endangered (YET).

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If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food

Well that's not entirely true. People used to and still do get meat from the butcher. And those that killed their own food still didn't eat as much meat as we do today.

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If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food

I like cute food!

Anyway I don't wanna get any more involved in this discution, I've said my say and... SAVE THE PANDAS! <joking> that's it im off to post somewhere else.
Love and Peace! everyone

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Originally posted by znork:
I like cute food!

LOL

I guess most people know where their food comes from... they just don't want to know like they don't want to know that idealism is dying, we fight for poverty more than we fight poverty and so one... It's human to block the bad things and always will be

Bad things? No bad things here! No bad things at all in th-
*walks into a wall*
Ouch!
Erm... anyways...
*runs away(stumbling badly because he's blindfolded)*

Bamby is realy teaty, and the rabit to num num. You know protecting selas is just stupid they would depleat the fish stock realy fast. Hunting seals is not bad, hunting just the mother of cubs is a bad thing, hunting cubs for seal skin is bad. Hunting is a good thing and hunting sels is a good thing.

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Originally posted by FoxHero:
I wouldn't be against seal hunting if we ATE them. But we simply skin them.
In addition, it's allowed to club them. Being beaten to death is certainly a bad way to go, especially since you hardly die from one blow.

4 things.. 1) People do eat seals 2)In Canada it is already illegal to hunt those cute white-coated baby seals that are in those pictures. 3) A gun is used 95% of the time to hunt them. Besides, a club is no more cruel than the implaments used to kill the millions of chickens, pigs and cows many people eat every day.
4) For what its worth, the Canadian seal hunt is supported by the WWF (not Hulk Hogan... silly, the animlal preservation group)

It is an individual decision whether or not it is OK for people to live off of other animals. Please, if you are trying to convince people of your point of view do some research. Dont beleive the propeganda of some of those animal rights groups. They are out to make money too... with your generous support of course.

Once again, the media is giving only PART of the story.

As a Canadian Maritimer (no I don't hunt seal myself), we DO eat seal. Seal flipper pie, seal stew, seal burgers, seal livers. We also eat moose, cow, pig, dear, and carrots. Those poor carrots...they never even saw it coming.

I can give you some great seal recipes, in case you are interested. The fact is, seal hunting has been part of our culture for at least 4000 years. We use/d furs and meat. We don't club baby seals, they have to be mature, white coat seals are off limits.

This anti-seal hunting has been brought on by uneducated people. And thanks to the negitive image brought on by the media, we are loosing an important part of the Newfoundland economy, which is struggling to being with. What you are saying to me is "who cares if you loose your lifestyle, as long as no animals get hurt". While we're at it, let's protest cow and pig farming.

Finally I thought we didn't have any Canadians here to shed light on just how it is over there

but could you give me some of those recipees? I'm serious i would really like to get some of them, and have my mother try cocking them

But for once we in the Faroes and CAnada are doing something else than fighting over fish we actually agree now

mostly i agree with Madman, people are the most cruelest animals in the world.
some of people are just cruel,
and some are crueler than cruels..

..and..some of them lives here..in the Tavern

OK Justice, here's a nice Newfie recipe for Seal Flipper pie.

1. Soak 4 seal flippers in 1L water and 500ml soda.
2. Trim off extra fat
3. Dry off and add seasonings...Worchestershire sauce is a favorite.
4. Brown in 125ml diced pork fat and make a gravy using 1 cup milk, 2 chopped onions, 5ml salt, 60ml flour, and 250ml cold water.
5. Bake it all in the oven at 160C for about 2.5 hrs
6. Make a pie crust, or buy one if your lazy
7. Fill crust with flipper filling and cover with second crust
8. Bake pie for 30min at 220C.

It's a lot of work, but since we only get seals at certian times of the year, it's quite a treat. Course, if this potition goes through, then I have just given you an extinct recipe.

If this works out for you, I can send you a simple recipe for moose tounge. Hopefully moose hunting will not get protested. Moose meat lasagna is delicious.

If you run out of moose in Kanada there's no end of them in Sweden. The wolves are practically gone(although they are slowly returning), so nobody eats Moose here but us(the humans that is).
The hunters practically have to shoot large numbers of moose every year to prevent them from swarming the forest like zerg and eat themselves to extinction.

We have no mooses here in the Faroes

But that recipee looks kinda funny hope I'll convince my mother and find some good seals