What is really sad is a President canceling projects that will put people out of work. This, the same man that wants to put people to work. I guess ya really need to handle a shovel and urinate in a porta-john in order to keep or get a job under this administration.

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Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
What is really sad is a President canceling projects that will put people out of work. This, the same man that wants to put people to work. I guess ya really need to handle a shovel and urinate in a porta-john in order to keep or get a job under this administration.

Because the past administration was so nice when it made it easy for corporations to outsource jobs (white collar jobs included).

I think there is a crazy scandal brewing.

Maybe if the government didnt tax corporations so much, they wouldnt need to outsource jobs to make a profit :P

just sayin

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Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:

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Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
What is really sad is a President canceling projects that will put people out of work. This, the same man that wants to put people to work. I guess ya really need to handle a shovel and urinate in a porta-john in order to keep or get a job under this administration.

Because the past administration was so nice when it made it easy for corporations to outsource jobs (white collar jobs included).

Outsourcing of jobs have been going on WAY longer than the Bush admin.

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Originally posted by QuestionMar1988:
Maybe if the government didnt tax corporations so much, they wouldnt need to outsource jobs to make a profit :P

just sayin

That's why they need to tax outsourced jobs and offer tax breaks to companies that choose to keep jobs in the country.

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Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:

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Originally posted by QuestionMar1988:
Maybe if the government didnt tax corporations so much, they wouldnt need to outsource jobs to make a profit :P

just sayin

That's why they need to tax outsourced jobs and offer tax breaks to companies that choose to keep jobs in the country.

If you end up doing that, they will pass that on to the consumer making prices of goods sky rocket.

I'm sure union workers are a huge part of the problem as well.

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Originally posted by A_Ninja_Boot:

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Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:

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Originally posted by QuestionMar1988:
Maybe if the government didnt tax corporations so much, they wouldnt need to outsource jobs to make a profit :P

just sayin

That's why they need to tax outsourced jobs and offer tax breaks to companies that choose to keep jobs in the country.

If you end up doing that, they will pass that on to the consumer making prices of goods sky rocket.

Not really, or, at least, it shouldn't be that way. Here's why:

Company A wants to cut costs by outsourcing. That's fine, especially to libertarians.

Company B wants to do the same, but the Federal government is offering tax deductions for keeping jobs domestically. As such, the higher costs for salaries to all the American workers can be covered by the money the company saves with taxes. Also, Company B now does not have to worry about the costs for shipping materials to a foreign country and then shipping the products back to the U.S.. Companies working in the U.S. meant higher costs for the consumer, then foreign car companies like VW wouldn't be building new factories in our country.

And Mikey, yes, unions are a tricky subject to deal with.

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Originally posted by Brimtown:
I've heard some talk that there might be a huge scandal - possibly even a criminal investigation - on the way, that this might have been a preemptive move. Something about them having a house built for free - so stay tuned. Could be completely wrong, but she has been surrounded by ethical controversies.

Yeah there has to be some kind of scandal about to surface

The thing about outsourced work is that the parent company is allowed to keep its base of operations in this country but they do not have to pay much at all in taxs. Personally, if they are going to operate here, they need to pay tax's here.
The financial failure of California is completely tied to the same practice. Movie studio's go to other countries and save on tax's while also pouring money into the economy of these other countries.
America and California see none of this.
All of the Douchbag polatitian's who made this practice possible, going all the way back to Reagan, are the reason that we have such a downturn in financial stability as a nation.

Unions are really not the problem. Especially when they are in support of the worker. They insure that the workers get covered and not taken advantage of by corporations who would outsource their jobs to another country at a fraction of the cost in order to make more profit for shareholders and Executive compensation.
Obama actually offered Companies who keep jobs within the US a $4000 tax break per employee for doing so.

Blaming any of it on the unions is like saying that you have to wait months to get treatment in another country because they have free health care. Something many of my foreign friends on LIVE consider to be absolutely hilarious. Yet many Americans seem to think is the truth.

As for Palin, I wish she would have stayed just so the GOP would continue to circle the drain for another decade.

The thing they need to do is not only come up with new and realistic Ideas, but also break away from the misguided belief that we are so awesome and do no wrong.
They have followed that path for so long now that they actually believe their own hype.

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Originally posted by QuestionMar1988:
Maybe if the government didnt tax corporations so much, they wouldnt need to outsource jobs to make a profit :P

just sayin

Tell me something. Taxes or no, do you think a corporation is going to be able to beat paying a kid in asia three cents an hour to make shoes? They will always go where they can turn the most profit. For some goods that means going where labor is cheapest. Both to minimise their price and maximise their profits. And where they go for cheaper labor will never be a developed country. They're not in india because it's got a fantastic tax code. They don't need to outsource jobs as it is to simply turn a profit, they simply want bigger profits. But if anything has necessitated and will continue to necessitate outsourcing it's that we as consumers have chosen to always go for the cheapest item. We have purchased ourselves out of the manufacturing market. Taxes will not affect that. The only reason they want more lenient taxes is so that they can keep more of those profits for themselves.

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I'm sure union workers are a huge part of the problem as well.

Unions are far from perfect. They can often be corrupt, they often ask too much, and they certainly raise the cost of labor. That said for a peek at a world without unions, take a look at walmart. People hurt on the job are fired and replaced, employees are paid less than minimum wage, frequent use of illegal immigrants and so on and so forth. Halcyon days for employers. Not so great for employees. It's tricky to say what should be done about unions. I worked for one and absolutely hated the way they vampired my checks, but at no other job was I given a back brace, a step ladder, a spotter ect. And I realise at the same time all those things cost money. And yet my quality of life is probably vastly improved by not having a messed up back. It's a mixed bag. But I'll tell you this. Companies have a lot more to gain from the abolishment of unions than you do.

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Originally posted by zeeEVIL1:
The thing they need to do is not only come up with new and realistic Ideas, but also break away from the misguided belief that we are so awesome and do no wrong.
They have followed that path for so long now that they actually believe their own hype.

Both parties are guilty of this.

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Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

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Originally posted by zeeEVIL1:
The thing they need to do is not only come up with new and realistic Ideas, but also break away from the misguided belief that we are so awesome and do no wrong.
They have followed that path for so long now that they actually believe their own hype.

Both parties are guilty of this.

Oh completely.

By the way, Palin quit or resigned because she is going to answer a higher calling and run for President.

I suspect there is more going on here than we relise. It is WAY to early for here to be doing more than putting out feelers for 2012. Beyond that she only had 1.5 years left in term. That would have hardly interfeared for a run in 2012.

All that said, as a middle of the road swing voter, she scares the crap out of me. It is her type of right with "party of god" crap that made me vote for Obama. When my perfered party (the GOP) returns to its sences and rejects the likes of Pat Robertson, I will return to the fold.

Religion sells. Just like sex.

Don't take it personally....

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Originally posted by theexpozay:
I suspect there is more going on here than we relise. It is WAY to early for here to be doing more than putting out feelers for 2012. Beyond that she only had 1.5 years left in term. That would have hardly interfeared for a run in 2012.

All that said, as a middle of the road swing voter, she scares the crap out of me. It is her type of right with "party of god" crap that made me vote for Obama. When my perfered party (the GOP) returns to its sences and rejects the likes of Pat Robertson, I will return to the fold.

That pretty much describes me to a tee.

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Originally posted by Pino_GruntFest:

It's good that she is resigning...but is she moving into pr0n or am I just getting my hopes up?

Here's hoping for a Playboy spread

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Originally posted by theexpozay:
All that said, as a middle of the road swing voter, she scares the crap out of me. It is her type of right with "party of god" crap that made me vote for Obama. When my perfered party (the GOP) returns to its sences and rejects the likes of Pat Robertson, I will return to the fold.

That's the exact reason I voted 3rd party. I normally lean conservative, but the past four+ years have shown the GOP to be less conservative and more blindly patriotically retarded.