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First off, insulting me does not help your case. You and your friend are unable to verify any of your claims, yet continue to post Tripod links. I am not asking for a western site. I am asking for substantial proof to back up your claims. I do expect some type of proof to eventually arrive here, hours (possibly days) later though. Where is the viable proof? Why did you feel the need to do this? Why not have a discussion about this in the correct manner? Yes, a 20 year old platform was shot down once, all the while the additional 849 sorties flown by the F-117 continue to be avoided by you and your friend. |
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I start speaking in that manner cause u insult my inteligency,maybe there is tripod word in link but thats official link of 127.LAE of our fighter squadron called VITEZOVI belive it or not that ur thing.U want proof i give it to u and now u dont belive it.Thats yr problem.
And ChatNick is my friend that i spoke about in post about killing f117,and hes came to this forum even not playing hawx with me only cause i tell em about yr side of story that u heard in tv/internet,while he was on spot... And if u want u can study wikipedia and ur source of information internet about JRV & 127.LAE fighter squadron Vitezovi,and thing that i provided u as a profe that u asking for... And in my previous post i wanted to say :"allmost all of f117 PARTS was sent to russia" HAWX Callsign: "[SAF]Rizmal/[SAF]Black Arrow"  |
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Only Americans commit genocide in this country!!! You piece of ****! Every day, for 80 days of bombardment, there was over than 1000 airplanes on the sky. Only thing NATO could hit is a civilian buildings. After this aggression our army had negligible loss!!! NATO brutally killed over 5000 civilians in bombing Serbia and about 150 soldiers. And try to find some literature that have not the same fascistic connotation that you are reading. Try to explain me is pilot (who can in any moment redirect the rocket) targeting train in movement (full of people)! Is that a military target? You are blind man!!!! You can not see what is you government doing in your name! |
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these definetly goes to wrong direction...
 HAWX Callsign: "[SAF]Rizmal/[SAF]Black Arrow" |
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This post solifies my beliefs. You throw out insults MORE then you post facts. I asked for proof to back your claim, you offered profanity. You are in most cases a younger individual who became frustrated after being exposed as liar. Yes, unfortunately civilian casualities occured. But when one factors in the bombing campaigns during WW2, the United States and her Allies have been as surgical as possible. BTW - Since you don't even understand what "genocide" means, allow me to help. –noun the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Shall I point out where this applies? |
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Agreed. This thread got way off topic. I have no problem debating/discussing aviation. However, if one makes claims, he must be prepared to provide proof. |
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You are talking about war that you have no idea what it was all about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...MpLU&feature=related The only reason for this American&German aggression was dislocation of American units that was at the end of agreement for being in Germany. Try to read more. Try to find more sources. Try to think for a change. Don`t take for true everything that`s been recorded to justify illegal act and behavior of an empire. |
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It's obvious that your political views are at the heart of the manner. Your internal frustrations obviously forced you to believe that you needed to lie. It's a shame. There are several posters on this MB that were able to maintain a discussion about military topics without resorting to this behaviour. |
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No. It was you that tried to replace argumentation with politics at first place. I am telling you that I was a participator in this war, and I was serving in Serbian forces (in unit that shot down F117). It was not nice from to justify a GENOCIDE that NATO did over my people, just because you don`t have arguments! |
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I agree guy wanted a proof i give it to him proof. And yes US makes agression on our coutry cause they dont have permission form UN to attack us,and maxraptor u dont have a damn clue what happend in our country since 91s except that is placed by propaganda. Yes there was killings ,rappings,and other brutal war crimes but on all sides in war in our former country since 90s but ur country marked only our side,thats is interes and propaganda my friend.... The thing is that serbs,croats and bosnian muslims r 1 nation and we live in peace until some western countries and our politician didnt destroy that harmony of good life and peace,and unfortunaly cause all of u that creats destinies of other peoples,even when u dont know where their country is,today we instead in peace live in hate. So maxraptor u have to inform about some thing using that internet ,not to be suspicious about every link that contains tripod or similar,cause i give u on that link and list of our nocked out pilots and planes that were in the air & u need to better inform about war that u definetly dont know nothing,and about our culture,then u maybe learn something and belive me,when u learn it u will never speak something like that about war that ur country provoket with few of our nuts politicions in our former country.And if u experiece(ed) army and agression like ChatNick and I was u will never say things like that.And bombardments are way more precize from ww2 and still ur pilots targeted 1 civil train or bus or refuges or town center with forbiden cluster bombs with no army forces around them .That is genocide... NOW CAN WE PLEASE BACK TO THE SUBJECT!!! HAWX Callsign: "[SAF]Rizmal/[SAF]Black Arrow" |
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First I thought... F-22 vs Su-47.. interesting topic. Now I see a internet war going on between several camps about the Balkan war. Guys, we are here because we play Hawx and to have fun. Shall we keep this fun??
About the war, as a 38 year old Western European, I am QUITE aware what happened in the Balkan. And aside from comments on this topic, there is a lot to say about what happened. NATO made mistakes in this war, but is not guilty of the situation in the Balkan region! All happened when the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina was formed and the other 3 states were fighting over territory. Too many people were killed, think about the massacres at Ahatovići · Ahmići · Foča · Korićani Cliffs · Lašva Valley · 1st Markale · 2nd Markale · Prijedor · Srebrenica · Tuzla · Višegrad.... Let them rest in peace and let us know that their deaths and all the others in wars in the past haven't been for nothing. So cut the crap and play HAWX! |
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After re-reading this thread, I have to laugh at this comment. You failed to provide documentation to validate your claim (IE - Lying). I say again, you did not do anything until you proove otherwise. Proove it, and I'll apologize. Simple as that. But hey, for the sake of humoring myself and continuing this discussion, let's say I believe that you served in that Army (which BTW, I will not). Then what? You had one shoot down during 850 sorties by the F-117 squadrons. That is not very successful. But hey, every dog has it's day. If you are looking for a congratulations from me, sorry, I wont be handing that out (for ethical reasons and common sense). You claim I did not have facts - Yet in my original post (and subsequent ones there after, I posted several facts. I can provide links. Question any of them? Fine, you are entitled to, but I can actually back up my posts, so challenge away. PLEASE. I have challenged you and "rizmal" numerous times to back up your claims. Neither of you have been able to do so. It forces me to believe that both of you are very young. Read my prior challenges for proof, and either deliver, or bow out gracefully. Your choice. Yes, I brought up Genocide. Anybody who has any level of remote knowledge on the conflicts understands that there was ethnic cleansing involved. It's the chief reason NATO was involved. Of course you'll disagree here, right? |
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I agree with you. But this moron put the politics at the first place. I said that I know that F117 and similar American airplanes are uncovered (today they are stealth as my grandma is), when he start to calling me a liar. It is better to be informed than to claim that you know everything. This forum is very good. Keep on that way. |
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I have no clue what happened in the air there... just know that 'my country' was on the ground, trapped between the serbian tanks and the bosnian anti tank missiles lol
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