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Originally posted by landon_326:
MC attacks his opponents credibility instead of sticking with the topic because his points don't make sense.

No, that's what YOU just did...again.

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Originally posted by landon_326:
1. Will I stop playing Hawx? I will never stop playing any of my games.

2. I'm about half way through level 38.

3. Hours played is difficult.

4. The numbers are just too large to even give a ball park estimate.

1) You plan on playing the "worst game ever" why? There have been plenty of bad games that I'll never play again...

2) Level 38 is a *lot* of play time...

3) Yes, it's hard to estimate accurately but I can *estimate* my hours around 40 or 50-ish and I'm only at level 28..I think. I don't play every day though...

4) Well you did say you may have "literally" played thousands of games so I'm wondering if that's like 1K, 2K, 5K, 10K? Surely you can ballpark it if it's true...


Since you did answer my questions, allow me:

1) "enlighten us all to some games that you have played that have anywhere near the number of bugs Hawx still has?" I don't necessarily define bad games by the number of bugs they do or have had. Some *very* good games have had FAR more bugs than HAWX. I don't waste my time with bad games long enough to count how many bugs they had. So, do you *really* want to know some of the games had "more bugs" even if they're good games? QWTF, TFC, HL (series), Doom (series), Quake (series), Unreal (series), Oblivion/Fallout (series), FarCry (series), FEAR (series) all had far more bugs than HAWX...

2) "Are you just the dude whose happy with fat chicks?" Grow up. To answer your juvenile question; my wife was only "fat" when she was pregnant, not that I loved her any less. She's not with us any longer...


You do now admit that you exaggerate, right? We can go on if you need more evidence...

Since Webster definitions are popular:

exaggeration
One entry found.

Main Entry:
ex·ag·ger·ate Listen to the pronunciation of exaggerate
Pronunciation:
\ig-ˈza-jə-ˌrāt\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
ex·ag·ger·at·ed; ex·ag·ger·at·ing
Etymology:
Latin exaggeratus, past participle of exaggerare, literally, to heap up, from ex- + agger heap, from aggerere to carry toward, from ad- + gerere to carry
Date:
1613

transitive verb 1 : to enlarge beyond bounds or the truth : overstate <a friend exaggerates a man's virtues — Joseph Addison> 2 : to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal : overemphasize intransitive verb : to make an overstatement

My closing argument with you on the quality of Tom Clancy's Hawx:


I do not feel it is an exaggeration to place Hawx in the category I put it in because I do expect more, because I've seen so much more.

I feel you do truly believe that we are exaggerating. No game is perfect, but you are okay with the way Hawx is, and we just aren't. Exaggeration of an opinion, is that possible?

There is not much use in us arguing over this anymore I think. We are no longer arguing the merits of Hawx, but now we are arguing the level of acceptance that players have for a game. Calling it as bad as we do becomes an exaggeration to you, but not to us.

That was my point with the fat chicks, if you are willing to accept Hawx's failures, as you clearly are. To me it just says that you don't look for much out of life, so you are okay with glitchy boring games and fat chicks.

Ask me any questions you want or argue any points of Hawx all day, but I'd like to end our discussion on the overall quality of Hawx.

-To me, Hawx is a boring and uninspired game with so many bugs that it is not an exaggeration to categorize it with the worst games I've ever played.
-To you, Hawx is okay as it is, not perfect but the amount of fun and bugs is acceptable.

So please, do one last post about how you feel on the quality of the game and our exaggerations and why you feel that, then let's talk about something else. That Gundam flying is amazing.

Smoke, Ldogg

This message has been edited. Last edited by: landon_326,

My questions are related to the quality of HAWX but I can see why you'd have to exaggerate and when confronted with the truth you get frustrated...

"the worst piece of freaken crap game ever"
"I cannot say Hawx is the worst game ever made."
You DID say it...then you tried to take it back...

"1000s"
"The numbers are just too large to even give a ball park estimate."
You did ballpark it then claimed it's SO many you couldn't. Again, how many "1000's?"

"I wasn't gonna be a d1ck"
"Are you just the dude whose happy with fat chicks?"
But you did...

"I categorize it with the worst games I've ever played."
"I will never stop playing any of my games."
Because you KNOW that it's not as bad as you're desperately/dishonestly trying to claim...

Dude, you should come over and chill. I'll share a bowl with you, maybe that'll help calm you down some.

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Originally posted by landon_326:
Dude, you should come over and chill. I'll share a bowl with you, maybe that'll help calm you down some.

Clearly you've had too much and you couldn't rile me up if you tried...


"you should come over and chill"
"f'n screw hawx. f'n screw tom clancy. f'n screw ubi, you owe me at least six bowls worth for all this frustration."
Yeah, you're "chill."

So, make your last stand in one post, then let's be done with this.

Give it to us.

How is my opinion of Hawx's boring levels and many bug an exaggeration?
How can anyone's opinion of anything be an exaggeration?
How is it not an exaggeration by you of how bad this game isn't? (It's the same, you think we exaggerate about the lameness of the game, and we think you exaggerate about the lack of lameness of the game.)
Am I wrong about your ability to accept what you're given?
Are your standards really this much lower than us complainers' here/elsewhere?

Let's read it and then accept each others' opinions please.

Yeah, Hawx p1sses me off. It doesn't work, I was chill till I played again. That post helps my point, not yours.

Smoke, Ldogg

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Originally posted by landon_326:
how is my opinion of Hawx's boring levels and many bug an exaggeration?

"Yeah, Hawx p1sses me off. It doesn't work"

"Many bugs" is *not* an exaggeration (nor does the number of bugs mean the game is bad), "worst game ever" is an exaggeration. You might even find it boring but then why would you have ~100 (or more) hours playing a "boring" game and why would you keep playing it if it's as bad as you try to claim? Clearly, as I've proven, you exaggerate and you're mad because you got caught exaggerating. That's why you're trying to make it about me and you'll get even more angry when that won't work.

You claim "it doesn't work" but you're at level 38 with dozens of hours playing. You don't see the contradiction there? It does work, it just has bugs. Doesn't truth matter to you at all?

When people over-exaggerate they throw credibility out the window, imo.


So, again, how many "1000s" of games? Still waiting...

I actually appreciate MC's comments for this simple reason.... who else would defend the other side (mildly satisfied HAWX customers)?

Side note... Just released: my new sig for my gaming clan...

See what I mean about trolls trying to make it about me?

I'll say, under 3000 games, but that could be way off. Can anyone tell someone how many games they've played, movies they've watch, meals they've eaten?

You are failing to see my point again. My point is that we are now arguing how much lameness can be accepted in video games. That is an opinion that we will never be able to persuade each other of.

Ok, I should not have said it is the worst game ever, because like I've said, I haven't played every game ever made.

But my opinion will not change. I played as much as I did because I was starved, but when it comes to the games I've played, it is one of the worst.

I'm calling you out. I'm sick of reading your exaggerations of the acceptability of this game. You just exaggerate about how the game is fun and isn't that flawed.

We're on a two way street. My opinion is just as far from your opinion as yours is from mine. The only difference is that I'm stuck in traffic and you're driving alone.

So stop exaggerating about how little fun the game is and that the bugs are not just too many to overlook.

Smoke, Ldogg

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Originally posted by Master_Cylinder:
See what I mean about trolls trying to make it about me?

How very contrite and arrogant. Lol but I still likes ya!

-To me, Hawx is a boring and uninspired game with so many bugs that it is not an exaggeration to categorize it with the worst games I've ever played.
-To you, Hawx is okay as it is, not perfect but the amount of fun and bugs is acceptable.

Fin.

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Originally posted by landon_326:
I'll say, under 3000 games, but that could be way off.

Ok, I should not have said it is the worst game ever, because like I've said, I haven't played every game ever made.

But my opinion will not change.

OK lets say 2K then? You said since you started with the NES... Let's do the math:
The NES came out in the US in 85, that's 83 different games per year or ~7 different games per month, every month, or 1 new game every 4 or 5 days for almost 24 years. While technically not impossible, it's doubtful...

Like I said, you exaggerated and you got mad at me for telling the truth. At least you finally admitted it which is more than some of the others did. Frankly, I doubt it's even the worst game you've every played if you've played even 1/4 of the games you claim you've played.

Of course it won't change, I'm not trying to change your opinion, I'm just pointing out that the game isn't as bad as you tried to claim, despite your opinion. I'm not claiming it's perfect just that despite the bugs it's still a good game and fun. Nothing more.

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Originally posted by Unit_14:
How very contrite and arrogant.

Still desperately trying to make it about me...and failing. Thanks for proving me right yet again.

Grrrr.

'Fin' is so tough sometimes.

Smoke, Ldogg

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Originally posted by landon_326:
Grrrr.

'fin' is so tough sometimes.

Yeah, just saying "fin" doesn't mean it really is either...