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4. The game is being built for 3 year olds , and the attempt at realism is disgusting and really shows that ubisoft will just **** out games with tom clanceys name on it to sell copies with little effort

You sound surprised why?

This was Phil Therien talking about FPS games:

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When asked by a fan whether Ubisoft would consider working on a new tactical shooter in the vein of the original Ghost Recon, the Rainbow Six Vegas 2 designer replied: "I doubt we will ever go back to really hardcore only shooters."

"The market was too narrow for it to be a viable business choice," Therien continued. "We would like to be able to please both sides but compromises have to be made."

Though clearly shooting down the idea of returning to the Rainbow Six series' roots, Therien did leave some hope for development of a game that might please both markets.

"We have some ideas to improve on the situation though--keep in mind however that we want our games to be accessible to as many people as possible, otherwise we just couldn't keep making games."

Why you'd expect anything different from a Clancy branded flight si... shooter with aeroplanes in is beyond me.

ps. If you haven't seen a feature (i.e. cockpit view) yet and you haven't had definite confirmation it probably isn't going to be in no matter how much they avoid explicitly stating that.

Another "me too" game from Ubi. I won't go so far as to call it trash, but it definetly looks like they just want to be like Ace Combat, the guy even says that in the interview more or less.

Definetly wasn't expecting or really wanting a hardcore sim, but this doesn't look like a good mix of air combat and air sim...just air combat, ie arcade style with few to no principles of flight that the player has to actually control. I mean, super 3rd person where your jet is the size of a big crosshair so you can see all the missiles coming at you? The fact that you'd need to use something like that is a bad sign as to the artificial difficulty of the game.

I like how ve3d explained it:

The gameplay footage for H.A.W.X. consisted of a plane flying in circles while the sound system screamed, "WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! INCOMING!! INCOMING!!"

If you dont like it then dont buy and let the people who are in anticipation for it buy it..

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Originally posted by Dfoboost:
If you dont like it then dont buy and let the people who are in anticipation for it buy it..

The thing is, all the people who are complaining, either obnoxiously or thoughfully, want to like the game. However, most everything that has been released about it, from the interviews to the title(HAWX) has been disappointing unfortunately. I'll still give it a go if a demo comes out, or if enough reviews are positive and it sounds like something I'd enjoy, but otherwise....

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Originally posted by Brettzies:

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Originally posted by Dfoboost:
If you dont like it then dont buy and let the people who are in anticipation for it buy it..

The thing is, all the people who are complaining, either obnoxiously or thoughfully, want to like the game. However, most everything that has been released about it, from the interviews to the title(HAWX) has been disappointing unfortunately. I'll still give it a go if a demo comes out, or if enough reviews are positive and it sounds like something I'd enjoy, but otherwise....

Exactly that, I was looking forward to the game being shown it looked great in mag scans etc... but after seeing that demo i won't unless I see more that really impresses me, and if I don't like it I won't buy it, lol who buys something they don't like? plenty of other great games to buy so not a worry to me, but maybe ubi who lose a potential £40.

well
i'm pertty sure that ubi didn't check any opinions our players gave to them,they regarded what we though as nothing because it won't let them make money.

My suggestion is that we can now go back and play old flight games.
Very hardcore players can play EF2000,and you will be very satisfied with almost everything in this game.(it's flight envelope/cockpit/ system/loadout very closed to the real EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON,AI is not too bad,the missions are very exciting but not too boring)
and,it can still be played in windows XP

PS:the last suggestion for ubi,check NOVALOGIC F-22 LIGHTNING 3,although the flight envelope is not really match the real F-22(but it didn't too rediculous),it has cockpit view(no bottons can be operated,but what all MFDs and HUD operate are close the real F-22),players have to fly in the cockpit.loadout follows real F-22 data.it sacrifices some of the realism,but not too much,and it is still very easy to play and players have a lot of fun with it

I don't think it was pure ignorance of the players, but I don't think they listened to the hardcore community who wanted an exacting sim. Unfortunately, their efforts to appear to a broader audience seem to have resulted in them blasting past the point of AC and sending themselves into a rather weird place that dosen't look so good. Its arcadish, but not really, and just an unattractive package all around. Hard to figure out how they got there, but that ERS system really is annoying, and the cameras need serious work, along with the plane models.

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Originally posted by ikharus:
yet another one who joins the forums just to flame.
Buddy, if you dont like the game please dont post, nobody cares what you think and your just spaming the forums.

if you saw what they had at UBIDAYS like i did, and you LIKED IT

You need to be shot , you are murdering any chance of having hardcore games anymore

I'm perfectly fine with people coming in here and trashing the game with their personal opinions because I only know so much about the game, and I want to be 100% sure about whether the game will suck, or rock. If this person has seen it first hand and claims the game is trash, then I will be even more skeptical of the game until more information is released about the game.

I expected at least some elements of a flight sim, but I couldn't find any.

I might rent it and play just for the cinematic feel (not even in movies do they do such stuff...maybe Iron -blieh!- Eagle).
Not impressed though... Will keep checking to see if it improves, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

The demo did look stunning, and the clouds was ..WOW...

Hated the fly though box, and i did see in a screen shot 20 missiles, well thats better then 100+ i guess..

The pull-out view..?

I nice idea, but only got high level flying you could not use it for flying low to the ground..
Time will tell i guess

I didn't think I'd ever post here again, after seeing the latest news and realizing this game will be horrible.... but now that I've seen video of just how horrible it is, I feel compelled to come back and make one last statement/request:

Ubi,

I would like the time I spent in anticipation of this game to be repaid. I think you owe ME, for wasting so much of my time. I feel totally cheated. I stood up for UBI when so many said mean things about this game, and I told them to wait and see. This looks to be the worst game featuring aircraft I have ever seen. What is with that strange dogfight zoomed out view??? Who dreamt that up, and can someone please take his crack-pipe away. Do you actually think this game will sell?? Maybe stop showing gameplay videos, and you'll hook some suckers in... But not my friends, I will warn them to stay away from this one, and I advise everyone else that reads this to do the same.

Just to let you know, you're not forced to use the Enhanced Reality (Pull out camera, enemy tracking etc) It does make it easier to do advanced manoeuvres and dodge missiles etc but you're free to stay inside the plane and dodge them with your own skill.

I thought forums were here for people to express ideas/opinions, regardless of whether or not everyone agrees.

As a favor, if you are chastising someone else for expressing a negative opinion, just mind your own damn business. If you have an opinion on the game, go ahead and say it. If you disagree with someone else's opinion, go ahead and express yourself. If you are telling someone else to stop posting, then back the hell up and get the knot out of your panties. If it gets bad, the mods will step in and say something. If you're not a mod, then keep it on topic.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by Raide:
Just to let you know, you're not forced to use the Enhanced Reality (Pull out camera, enemy tracking etc) It does make it easier to do advanced manoeuvres and dodge missiles etc but you're free to stay inside the plane and dodge them with your own skill.

please show us more
about cockpit and other detail(screenshot or video)
and my question still not be answered:how many missiles can the airplanes in HAWX carry???
follow the real planes?or at least 20??
which type of missiles can a plane carry?follow real plane setting,or a Su-35 can carry AIM-9?(like screenshot)?

I assume the planes in the game will be allowed to carry a ridiculous amount of missiles. I'm solely basing this on the gameplay video I saw where they were spittin missiles out like the plane was a damn PEZ despenser.