In real life, my favorite jet is the F-15E Strike Eagle. I'm a bit biased having been assigned to the 90th Fighter squadron from 1992-1996.

My least favorite jet on this game is the F-15E Strike Eagle. Tom Clancy and/or Ubisoft completely misrepresented the elite dual role fighter / bomber.

1.) All E-Model F-15's are TWO seaters!!!
The rear seat is for the Weapons Systems Officer (WSO).

2.) Where are the conformal fuel tanks?!?
Although they can be flown "clean" (with the tanks removed), this is extremely rare and never during missions. The stronger engines require more fuel. Without conformal tanks the F-15E's flight duration would be quite short. That leads me to the next problem....

3.) The E-model is faster than the A's and C's. it has 2 stronger engines with only a slight increase in weight when flown air-to-air.

4.) By leaving off the conformal fuel tanks they also left off the numerous weapons mounts (hard points). The F-15E can carry a much larger supply of missiles and bombs than this game gives it credit for.

5.) Where are the pods?

6.) No Electronic Warfare Capabilities?

It's cool that the PS3 finally has an Air Force game. But the complete disregard for realism is quite dissappointing.

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the Harrier is a big ****, the A4-SKYHAWKS kill 8 royal navy ships and 30 harriers Destroyed.

A4-AR Fightinghawks Rulez u mofo!

When were 8 RN ships and 30 harriers destroyed?

it never happened. nowhere does it say such a large number of RN ships were sunk in a modern operation. the only known campaign where skyhawks met Harriers was the falklands in which only 6 harriers were lost... all to ground fire as apposed to 35 Argentinian losses... at least 25 confimed to be sky hawks

and on that note my favorite in game fighter is the XA-20... real life... its a tad old but i've always liked the Israeli IAI Kfir C7

where? in Malvinas, 1982 war.

BUQUES AVERIADOS:

Buques perdidos (hundidos o destruidos): 8

Destructor Tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-80) HMS Sheffield
Destructor Tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-118) HMS Coventry
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-184) HMS Ardent
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-170) HMS Antelope
Buque Logístico de Desembarco (L-3005) RFA Sir Galahad
Buque Logístico de Desembarco (L-3505) RFA Sir Tristam
Portacontenedor de Gran Porte Atlantic Conveyor
Lancha de Desembarco Foxtrot 4

Buques fuera de combate (inactivos): 8

Submarino clase Oberon (S-21) HMS Onyx (accidente operacional)
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-174) HMS Alacrity
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-185) HMS Avenger
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-173) HMS Arrow
Fragata clase Leander (F-56) HMS Argonaut
Crucero Liviano clase County (D-18) HMS Antrim
Crucero Liviano clase County (D-19) HMS Glamorgan
Destructor Tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-88) HMS Glasgow

Buques averiados de consideración (casi inactivos) : 5

Fragata Tipo 22 clase Broadsword (F-90) HMS Brilliant
Fragata Tipo 22 clase Broadsword (F-88) HMS Broadsword
Fragata Tipo 12 clase Rothesay (F-126) HMS Plymouth
Fragata Tipo 21 clase Amazon (F-172) HMS Ambuscade
Buque Logístico de Desembarco (L-3029) RFA Sir Lancelot


Buques averiados: 10*

*Portaaviones Liviano (R-05) HMS Invincible y Portaaviones Liviano (R-12) HMS Hermes (se desconoce oficialmente si han sido tocados por la Aviación Argentina)
Destructor Tipo 42 clase Sheffield (D-89) HMS Exeter
Buque de Asalto Anfibio (L-10) HMS Fearless
Buque Auxiliar de Apoyo clase Tide (A-76) RFA Tidepool
HMS Sir Bedivere (LSL)
HMS Yarmouth
RFA Norland
Dos naves no identificadas (lanchones de desembarco)

TOTAL BUQUES PERJUDICADOS: 31

LOST AIRCRAFT UK:

SEA AND AIR SQUADRONS OF THE ROYAL FLEET:

It is lost Harriers or out of combat: 8

ROYAL(REAL) AIR FORCE:

Lost Harriers or out of combat: 6

HELICOPTERS:

Lost Helos or out of combat: 31

TOTAL AIRCRAFT OUT OF COMBAT: 45

UK CONCLUSION:

WHOLE DIED: 1029 (estimated)
TOTAL DAMAGED OR LOST NOSES: 31
TOTAL LOST AIRCRAFT: 45

Peace for all Soldiers Die in Malvinas, Argentinos & Britanicos.

Respect.

quote:

Originally posted by crylove:
LOST AIRCRAFT UK:

SEA AND AIR SQUADRONS OF THE ROYAL FLEET:

It is lost Harriers or out of combat: 8

ROYAL(REAL) AIR FORCE:

Lost Harriers or out of combat: 6

HELICOPTERS:

Lost Helos or out of combat: 31

TOTAL AIRCRAFT OUT OF COMBAT: 45

And these harriers were all shot down by A4-SKYHAWKS were they?

p.s you said 30 harriers were destroyed, 8+6 = 14 not 30.

14 Harriers destroyed officially, but they were many destroyed 30 unofficial.

Harriers + AIM-9.

A4-Q,C,B + Bombs MK-82 from UK.

Actually officially:
'Sea Harriers shot down 21 aircraft with no air-to-air losses themselves, although six Sea Harriers were lost to ground fire and accidents'

source wikipedia.

'nuff said.

quote:

Originally posted by VANTAGE_1:
Actually officially:
'Sea Harriers shot down 21 aircraft with no air-to-air losses themselves, although six Sea Harriers were lost to ground fire and accidents'

source wikipedia.

'nuff said.

varified on several other websites. however... 7 ships were sunk by Argentinian forces, 4 by sky hawks the the rest by land based missiles of the french super Etendart. mistake on my behalf... i though only 4 were lost.

quote from http://www.naval-history.net/F63braircraftlost.htm "Starting with just 20 Sea Harriers, a further eight joined the Task Force by mid-May. A total of six were lost by accident or ground fire, and not one in air-to-air combat"

but still... why did you read so many harrier were shot down? could you provide the site your data was from?

British Soldiers They treble the dead Argentine soldiers.

translated spanish to english by google translator:

http://translate.google.com/tr...story_state0=&swap=1

Original link in spanish:

http://www.malvinense.com.ar/bajasbritanicas.html

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Hugo Robacio: " the English falls treble the Argentine falls "

Translated for google translator: spanish to english:

http://translate.google.com/tr...story_state0=&swap=1

Original Link in spanish:

http://www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/0109/1128.html

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bytes

favorite aircraft, harv or f15active.

much as i love the raptor until i get the otherweapon packs its to much a one trick pony with the basic loadout i need to be able to adapt from long to short to medium to cannon in an instant.

quote:

Originally posted by crylove:
British Soldiers They treble the dead Argentine soldiers.

translated spanish to english by google translator:

http://translate.google.com/tr...story_state0=&swap=1

Original link in spanish:

http://www.malvinense.com.ar/bajasbritanicas.html

bytes

to be frank, that's about as believable as Britain nuked the 'Falklands' something that piece of propaganda claims the UK was willing to do- false.... its claimed by the french PM that thatcher actually threatened France into giving her the codes for the Exocet missiles not threatened to nuke the islands or Argentina.

the HMS sir Tristan was damaged and returned to port NOT destroyed as it claims. total ships lost 7- fact proved on several sites

30 Chinese marines killed by heavy shelling? where the hell did that come from? the only chinese killed in the Falklands were 8 Hongkong/Chinese crew men aboard the various ships or in the ground forces. with the way its written it sounds more like chinese involvement

and finally his accusation that British government would hide the real cost of the war, even to speculate that soldiers bodies were thrown over board to hide the fact. is damn right insulting. unless you can find offical sites with these 'facts' on. this source is little more than propaganda conspiricy story made by an Argentinian patriot

but bringing this back into the aviation site. even on this source no where does it say a Argentinian Skyhawk ever shot down a Harrier or SeaHarrier. it confirms that they were lost to ground fire or mechanical failures

Well said, i think thats the final blow to this little debate and we can at last get back on topic.