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Originally posted by ElysianGuardian:
i had a 360 before - it died twice, finally i got a refund and said **** microsoft. i've always been a pc gamer since the earliest console-text-based adventure games. i like to consoladate most appliances into a single device, so i do everything but cook food with my pc.

which might be possible with this overclocked quad-core opteron if i turned the watercooling setup off..

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Originally posted by maxraptor09:

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Originally posted by Master_Cylinder:
I don't have an issue with the missions although I wouldn't complain if there were more of them. The missions shouldn't have anything to do with how acceptable the aesthetics are/would be, if the complaint is about aesthetics, I don't see how more/different mission(s) would change that. Conversely, if the missions were worse I wouldn't suggest that the aesthetics were more important, in that case, either. One really has nothing to so with the other and the missions were fun too. Some people just aren't happy if they're not complaining about this, that or whatever.

Either way, it's a fairly safe bet that all we'll see in the next patch or two will only be bug fixes (real bugs not aesthetic differences) and we most likely won't see a DLC that entails more missions, modes, planes, etc. HAWX 2, if they make it, might be completely different or it might just be more missions/planes/options on basically the same engine.

YMMV...

One might not like the style (WW2 air combat with lack of modern conviences) of IL-2...

So you see, the graphics, aircraft models, ambient surroundings, missions, controls, etc., all make up an individual piece of the whole puzzle. Some people fail to realize this, and make one vain attempt after another as if they are HAWX's advocate.

Oh, and no MC, I seriously have doubts that we will not see another patch. I don't see any evidence to support your theory. DLC? Yeah, it's done.

With all this said, I will still purchase HAWX 2 when the title comes out. Yes, I believe there will be another title due to the simple fact of Blazing Angels getting a sequel.

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Originally posted by maxraptor09:
Of course Wrend. I don't think MC or I have failed to acknowledge that all of this is based on our opinions. Plus, it's fun to "discuss" in my book..

But yeah, I am the attention to detail camp when it comes to certain things, and unfortunately, HAWX fails in that department, all the while it shouldn't have.

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Originally posted by Master_Cylinder:

I looked at IL-2 and decided it wasn't for me. I tend to avoid games based in the past, even with shooters too.

Don't get me wrong, if the graphics looked like PONG era or even Quake era graphics *that* would be an issue, I just don't care if all of the rivets are in the right place, in the right quantity or other unimportant minutia. Of course they're important to some people, I just don't have that problem.

Well, people said the same thing before the second patch came out too. I didn't have "proof" then and I have none now but they sold a lot of copies and probably a lot of DLC to the console crowd, they know we still have some persistent and important bugs that need to be fixed, especially in multi-player, so I'd expect one or two more patches and that's about it.

I'm still not predicting HAWX 2 but I'd certainly look at it if they make it.

Who? Of course it's subjective, we made that clear long ago.

Maybe you should join a different camp? If expectations are "too high" the odds of failure increase and by your own hand no less.
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Fun, indeed...
PC too...

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Originally posted by maxraptor09:
It's to bad you don't give historical games a chance. On another note, I will be picking up IL-2 today, and unfortunately, HAWX will be used as trade in credit (I got the platinum trophy). I am looking forward to it. I might be mistaken, but IL-2 has 2 to 3 times the missions as HAWX, and that's my cup of tea.

The console game is officially done...

I expect an announcement of HAWX 2 sometime early 2010.

Well, I figure since I, the consumer, have a right to expect better. Especially since it's my hard earned 60 bucks that I chose to spend on a Ubisoft product. So, thanks for the "suggestion", but I like where my tent is now.

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Originally posted by Master_Cylinder:

Yeah, more missions is a good thing but it's not enough to make me want to play it. Again, subjective...

Why do non-official people even try to make "official" statements?

There may well be a HAWX 2 but there was supposed to be a Duke Nukem Forever too so, I'll wait for something a bit more "official."

As a consumer you can choose to buy something or choose not to buy whatever but it's completely up to ubisoft to make their game however they want and while you may "have a right to expect" anything you want, you don't have the right to get something just because you want it or because some "other" game did something else. That would be unrealistic, imo...

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Originally posted by maxraptor09:
For me, more missions is about flying different planes, in different surroundings. HAWX really didn't offer enough singleplayer missions, and that my man, is not subjective. There was plenty of other source material in the game that I can think of right now, and list.

"Non-official" folks like myself use common sense. I urge you to take a look at Ubisoft's track record with this kind of thing. My guess is, you have NOT. My personal experience with Ubisoft on the console tells me the PS3/360 users will not see another patch. Blazing Angels on the consoles is my reference. I hope this clears things up for you. Being how you self admitted that you are new to the action/flight genre AND a PC gamer, you'll probably not bother.

Speaking of PS3/PC/360 gamers... Why does Ubisoft not have a seperate section for each? A console player's issues will NOT be the same a PC user. Correct?

As you have pointed out, HAWX did sell a million copies of the game, so it's not that hard to believe HAWX 2 will come out. But hey, maybe Ubisoft realised that a MAJORITY (IE - Not you) are a picky sort, and may shy away from a sequel. I hope they don't. I buy all flight games pretty much, so the more the merrier.

Unrealistic to you. To me, who has owned and operated a business for 6 years UNDERSTANDS that customers will ALWAYS have DIFFERENT opinions then me. I then make it my job to conform to their needs, being how they are spending money on my service. Buying a video game is no different when you use business sense.