ubi.com    Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Splinter Cell  Hop To Forums  Splinter Cell Off-Topic    Memory question for the PC builders
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Picture of cooldude6681
Posted
Alright, so I'm looking into building my first PC sometime around the end of march, after I finish my PC Tech and Troubleshooting class.

I found this motherboard, which claims to use a memory standard of DDR2 1333, but it seems that such a standard doesn't exist. What standard can/would/should I install? Is this a matter of OCing another standard (say, DDR2 1066)?

The rest of the PC:
Antec Sonata III w/ 500W Earthwatts PSU
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz
2x Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s in RAID 0
2x EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+
LG Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16xDVD burner
Logitech 600 keyboard
Logitech G5 laser mouse
Will be running Windows 7 Beta . Possibly dual-booting with Windows Vista Business.

Also, I heard that using a smaller HDD (~80GB) to boot from results in faster boot rates compared to a 500GB or 1TB drive. Is there any validity to this or is it complete BS?

Edit: I accidentally deleted the contents of this post, and I don't feel like finding all the links again.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: cooldude6681,




Pro-ConViction; Pro-Artistic Freedom Thumbs Up
PAX09 Enforcer
 
Posts: 5984 | Registered: Wed November 10 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.



12/30/2006 XXXXDDDD
I miss you.
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" -1 Cor 1:27
 
Posts: 1617 | Registered: Sun January 21 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
BANNED
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.


NO NO NO, ur making a big mistake, ATI is in the lead and the 4870 X2's dominate those cards by nvidia because it has a faster clock speed and memory of GDDR5.
 
Posts: 187 | Registered: Thu December 13 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of WhiteKnight77
Posted Hide Post
Here is the Memory Support List for the motherboard you choose. It has native support of DDR2 1300 and allows memory to be OCed to 1366. I am sure that there other memory that isn't listed will work, as long as you get the right speed.

It appears Newegg has a typo.



"Do not build your community around a game.... Build your game around a community"
"Wearing a cup won't help either" Hatchetforce
Staff GhostRecon.net | Aggression
WhiteKnight77 | Blackfoot Studios | John Sonedecker Interview 2
 
Posts: 7967 | Registered: Sat October 20 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of cooldude6681
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.)
I can't believe I overlooked that. Yeah, I meant to find one with SLI. Though, I'm rather attached to that board now.... After doing a bit more research though, CrossFire seems to be the cheaper way to go Shady

As for 1 card vs 2 cards, I've done systems with 1 card, and I'd like some experience building a system using two to learn how to configure them. Not to mention the first-hand experience obtained by observing the practical difference between 1-card and 2-card setups. I'm going to need all the experience I can get if I want to succeed in this field, yes? Wink2

@Agentx: Heh, I'd love to set up a couple 4870 X2s, but I'm trying to stay under a budget of $1000.

@WK: Sweet, thanks for that. It answers something else I was wondering about.

Hmm, it seems I'll need a different PSU if I want to run dual 4850s in CrossFire mode. Bah, it's after midnight, I'll deal with that tomorrow.




Pro-ConViction; Pro-Artistic Freedom Thumbs Up
PAX09 Enforcer
 
Posts: 5984 | Registered: Wed November 10 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of quillan
Posted Hide Post
I also recommend a single card. Here's why:
1) a single video card, these days, is more than capable of giving you the resolution and features you want. 1920x1200 resolution with 8x AA and 16x AF? You can do it with a single top end video card. No need to buy two.

2) there are limits on combination cards. With SLI, they have to be identical. With Crossfire, they don't, but to properly work you still need them to be fairly close in performance. When one breaks a year or two down the road, you won't be able to buy a matching one, so you'll wind up having to shell out on two more.


______________________________
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
 
Posts: 4406 | Registered: Thu January 16 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Agentx_OO3:
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.


NO NO NO, ur making a big mistake, ATI is in the lead and the 4870 X2's dominate those cards by nvidia because it has a faster clock speed and memory of GDDR5.


Actually the GTX295 will outperform the 4870X2, but the 4870X2 is a awesome card, id still go nvidia though even if it was with the cards I mentioned, just because I love there driver support, if a game doesnt run good out of the box, nvidia will make it run good, thats what I love about them, ATI most of the time is behind when it comes to drivers. Plus you get PhysX support with nvidia cards, also im nvidia biased :/

@cooldude Yeah nothing beats experience, if your getting into the computer hardware field, employers want people that can help them now, not later with training. Plus school can only take you so far. As for the power supply, a 500w is fine for 2 4850's, but if you want to upgrade to two higher end card, I recommend goin a head and getting higher wattage psu so you wont have to mess with it down the road. Just dont go overboard, you dont need a 1000w psu or even 850 for that matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817256045

Thats one of the best around, its a 700w that will outperform most 800w psu's, its also modular which I personally love, basically it comes with a set amount of cables, you can plug in or take out however many connections you need or dont need, instead of having a huge mess of unused cables laying the case. PC power and cooling make nice ones as well.



12/30/2006 XXXXDDDD
I miss you.
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" -1 Cor 1:27
 
Posts: 1617 | Registered: Sun January 21 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of Aj6627
Posted Hide Post
Very nice choice on the HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive!

I have that same one, and it performs like a champ!

I will warn you this: the version of PowerDVD that comes with it gets ****y when you put it on 7. I'd reccomend dual booting Vista with it.(or XP if you want)

PS. I have a copy of XP MCE if you want it. Big Grin


I have the fifth freedom... so watch out, here I come
Originally registered July 17, 2002
 
Posts: 3920 | Registered: Wed August 24 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
BANNED
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Agentx_OO3:
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.


NO NO NO, ur making a big mistake, ATI is in the lead and the 4870 X2's dominate those cards by nvidia because it has a faster clock speed and memory of GDDR5.


Sir I look forward into killing you soon Via Chaostheory on the PC and then in the Future Non Ubi related titles as ive spoken with you before on Xbox live =).
 
Posts: 187 | Registered: Thu December 13 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Agentx_OO3:
quote:
Originally posted by Agentx_OO3:
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.


NO NO NO, ur making a big mistake, ATI is in the lead and the 4870 X2's dominate those cards by nvidia because it has a faster clock speed and memory of GDDR5.


Sir I look forward into killing you soon Via Chaostheory on the PC and then in the Future Non Ubi related titles as ive spoken with you before on Xbox live =).


lol, Counter Strike Source and COD 4 not happening, the rest will call fair game Wink



12/30/2006 XXXXDDDD
I miss you.
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" -1 Cor 1:27
 
Posts: 1617 | Registered: Sun January 21 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of JohnsHomegirl
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
quote:
Originally posted by Agentx_OO3:
quote:
Originally posted by MeloniesHomeboy:
First things first...memory...at the tech store I work at we sale a ver of that board you have linked, that basically means it supports up to 1333 (OC), you can put 667, 800, 1066, 1200, in the system, doesnt matter, as long as its DDR2. Now something you also need to know about that board is it doesnt support SLI, only crossfire, and not even full xfire at that (8x in one lane 16x in the other). I see you have 2x 9800GTX, so im assuming you had SLI in mind? Only way you will be able to achieve that is through the nvidia chipset boards (680i 780i etc.) As for the hard drive ?, it all depends on the drive, there are is a really fast WD drive called the 640AAKS (640gb), its a normal 7200rpm drive, but its faster than most any other 7200rpm, so not really true, there are also perpendicular drives that tend to be faster than reg 7200rpm drives. If you want fast though, look at the Velociraptor hard drives or putting two drives in RAID.

One other thing about your vid card selection, id look at going with one card, try the GTX260 or 280's, just my opinion though, I will always stick with a one card solution.

Anyways, if you want my opinion on other stuff just send me a pm.


NO NO NO, ur making a big mistake, ATI is in the lead and the 4870 X2's dominate those cards by nvidia because it has a faster clock speed and memory of GDDR5.


Actually the GTX295 will outperform the 4870X2, but the 4870X2 is a awesome card, id still go nvidia though even if it was with the cards I mentioned, just because I love there driver support, if a game doesnt run good out of the box, nvidia will make it run good, thats what I love about them, ATI most of the time is behind when it comes to drivers. Plus you get PhysX support with nvidia cards, also im nvidia biased :/

@cooldude Yeah nothing beats experience, if your getting into the computer hardware field, employers want people that can help them now, not later with training. Plus school can only take you so far. As for the power supply, a 500w is fine for 2 4850's, but if you want to upgrade to two higher end card, I recommend goin a head and getting higher wattage psu so you wont have to mess with it down the road. Just dont go overboard, you dont need a 1000w psu or even 850 for that matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...Item=N82E16817256045

Thats one of the best around, its a 700w that will outperform most 800w psu's, its also modular which I personally love, basically it comes with a set amount of cables, you can plug in or take out however many connections you need or dont need, instead of having a huge mess of unused cables laying the case. PC power and cooling make nice ones as well.


Googly Winky In Love



12/30/2006 XXXXDDDD
TRF
I miss you.
My Deviantart
My Artician
 
Posts: 1766 | Registered: Sun January 21 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of Double_Agent121
Posted Hide Post
I agree with John there 100%. He has proven to me that he knows his stuff. Also he is nVidia Biased like me. XD



Pro ConViction
 
Posts: 205 | Registered: Thu May 15 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Picture of cooldude6681
Posted Hide Post
So I ordered the parts earlier this evening. It's slightly altered from my earlier list, and due to budget constraints I couldn't get dual graphics cards (though I have the option to do so later). But it'll still be a fun build, I hope.

Gigabyte Mobo
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz
2x Patriot Viper 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 250GB in RAID 0
Sapphire Radeon 4850
LG Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16xDVD burner
Antec NeoPower 650 Blue
Antec Nine Hundred
(I like my shiny Big Grin)
Logitech 600 keyboard
Logitech G5 laser mouse
Will be dual-booting Windows Vista Business (I get a free license for it with one of my classes) and Windows 7 Beta.

Hopefully it'll arive by Friday. I could actually have something to do over the weekend.

Thanks for the advice, everyone Happy. Crysis, here I come...




Pro-ConViction; Pro-Artistic Freedom Thumbs Up
PAX09 Enforcer
 
Posts: 5984 | Registered: Wed November 10 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
  Powered by Eve Community  
 

ubi.com    Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Splinter Cell  Hop To Forums  Splinter Cell Off-Topic    Memory question for the PC builders

Terms of Use

Privacy Policy