Hello everyone.

I made this simple mission to practice with the A-10 but i think i made something impossible... (for me at least)

Heres a screenshot and its pretty much only this



I cant remember what kind of veichles i selected but they are russian. I believe its one of those "Sam something" almost at the end of the list (14 units total i believe). I also added a tunguska and 3 BMP's (easy targets). I was planning to snap the radars with Mavericks "D" (infrared ones) and then it would be easy to kill the rest.

Unfortunatly i cant even get in range... Those missile have freaking huge range, easy to avoid when they are far but when we are mid-range / short-range its hell... and they are so many i dont know where to turn.

So anyway i was hoping i could get some tips on how to snap these dudes... or if it is even possible to do it =).

Thank You.


PS: Got it, its a group unit and its called S-300 PS or something like that. Yes my graphics are messed up. I was trying to practice to fly without tags but i couldnt even succeed with them...

S-300 is I guess the Russian equivalent of Patriot - only worse! In real life, any A-10 driver would avoid it like the plague and not in his wildest dreams get within its range.

But for fun, you can try and kill it. Great practice for missile avoidance and for flying so low that you can smell the flowers

can you actually stay under the radar in LOMAC?

I believe you can. For those missles, detection range is huge, and max effective ange is ~80km. In real life, at least.

In real life, you should be fine within about 3km, but you're pretty much toast any further off, cause a 100kg warhead won't leave much left after it detonates 10 meters from your A-10.

I do believe that due to the nature of those missiles, they won't hit you if you skim the surface. But that means you'll have to pop up to actually launch your missiles, at which point either those, or a Tunguska will get you.

Tunguska's are nasty at medium/close range, and the bigger SAM's won't let you pop your plane up further than 10 meters from the ground.

So that is one challenging mission indeed

What you do is drive the A-10 on the roads to the site- then once you get to the end of that long straightaway- you floor it, get airborne & retract yer gear- then start gunning the PISS out of it.

lol! But really all you need is a few SEAD escorts. That HARM missile works wonders :P

Ah, so its not my noobness, its actually a deadly combination Tunguska (short / mid range) and the "patriots" (Extremely long range)...

Damn off to a bad start for practice xD. my RWS goes silent at 50meters from the ground or something, i actually came VERY close to them, but when i popped up to arm the mavericks they launched so many missiles at me i didnt know what to do. I think i dodge 2, and the others got me (all of them xD).

Im gonna try it again but this time I keep going low and use the GAU-8 to get the radars, if they cant see me i bet they cant fire those damn S-300...

oh wait... as i type this i remember the tunguska and the 3 bmp's....


damn... *keeps working on a plan*

It's next to impossible to do this mission by yourself. You need support either by bombers flying at extreme hieghts above the missile range or by SEAD escort. I've made a mission like this too. But I had ground forces attack the tunguskas, and SEAD escorts attack the SAM's.

Sorry but whats SEAD? =)

SEAD-Stupid Engagements Are Dumb. :P

Really it is Supression of Enemy Air Defence, aka Ironhand...aka men with freakin' huge cojones big enough to wish for death at 10'-80k' and then some. Which is why I fly SEAD almost exclusively nowadays.

Sounds intresting... where can i learn more about SEAD? =]

Also im going to try a diferent mission to practice with the A-10, something less... impossible hehe.



I <3 Ironhand, i think i've watched most of his tutorials, i could spend a whole day watching tutorials =]

P.S: I've already watched the SEAD tutorials by Ironhand

If you manage to live to get close enough, hit that "Flap Lid" radar (its the one closest to you in your screen shot). That's the engagement radar, without that, the S-300 battery will be able to see you, but won't be able to guide missiles at you. After that, just retreat to a safe distance and altitude and pick off the Tung's one by one. Lock one up, wait for him to fire at you, then fire at him and turn and run like hell. This all assumes you have managed to survive to get close enough to nail the "Flap Lid", which is a cast iron b****.

woohoo, i did it.


I was flying so low that i could smell the grass like someone said, I got the big antenna and then the other small one, ran away got hit by several bullets from hte tunguska and 1 missle, but i was still flying. I turned around and shot the tunguska and the big missle-pod trucks, got hit some more with tunguska bullets, made another pass, shot 2 bmp's and it was time to go home...


My A-10 was full of holes, 2 fuel leaks , one engine was at 10% lost the rudders and my right wing aileron. the airbase was too far so eventually i lost all the fuel and had to eject. It was a sucess though but still lost my wingman (he was shot down like 1 minute after the mission started, he just couldnt smell the grass...) and my own A-10 =/ but the pilot lived for another mission hehe

Nice

If you are ever again in a beat up jet running out of fuel and cannot make it to a base, look for a road to land on. Much more fun to find a bit of road long enough and straight enough to land on than simply baling out.
Watch out for bridges though, you can't go across them, so find a bit of road that doesn't have a bridge in the middle of it.

i can barely land on a damn runway with ILS guiding me in. no chance in hell i'm gonna be puttin down on a 2m wide road anytime soon. :P

Not quite as hard as you might think. Took me a couple of attempts after I read on the Forums that it was actually possible.

Once you have got the hang of landing on runways with ILS, then try VFR landings on runways (ie. without ILS help) and get used to how the sight picture of an approach looks in the HUD. Check out IronHand's training video of how to do it, link below,

http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/flightbasics.htm

Scroll down to "VFR landing:RUSFOR aircraft". Its lessons are applicable to any aircraft. Once you can do VFR approaches on runways, then try a road, if anything it can be easier as you have so much more runway length to play with on a road.
In the Crimea, the road from Dzhankoy to Simpheropol has some nice straight bits of about 20km - far longer than any runway
In the Caucasus, lots of stretches of straight road around the big lake near Krasnodar.

Ive landed on a road in the caucasus's before :P

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Originally posted by OneillSGT:...My A-10 was full of holes, 2 fuel leaks , one engine was at 10% lost the rudders and my right wing aileron. the airbase was too far so eventually i lost all the fuel and had to eject. It was a sucess though but still lost my wingman (he was shot down like 1 minute after the mission started, he just couldnt smell the grass...) and my own A-10 =/ but the pilot lived for another mission hehe

Decided to try and repeat your experience. Got a little too cute with the Tunguska (rather than doing it by the book) and took some damage. But, since my house was just a few blocks away, I decided to just go home:: V1.12 Track: Honey, I'm Home!. If you watch to the end, I'll pull into my driveway and shut it down. Had a bit of trouble, though, figuring out which house was mine. Everything looks so different from the ground. Hope the views play back correctly, since I've heavily edited the snap views file for widescreen.

Rich

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Awesome Ironhand =D

Im so honored u made a track for this ocasion! I just bought Lock-on Golden on Amazon so as soon as it arrives and i get the patches imma watch your track =]


Thanks!

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Originally posted by IR0NHAND:

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Originally posted by OneillSGT:...My A-10 was full of holes, 2 fuel leaks , one engine was at 10% lost the rudders and my right wing aileron. the airbase was too far so eventually i lost all the fuel and had to eject. It was a sucess though but still lost my wingman (he was shot down like 1 minute after the mission started, he just couldnt smell the grass...) and my own A-10 =/ but the pilot lived for another mission hehe

Decided to try and repeat your experience. Got a little too cute with the Tunguska (rather than doing it by the book) and took some damage. But, since my house was just a few blocks away, I decided to just go home:: V1.12 Track: Honey, I'm Home!. If you watch to the end, I'll pull into my driveway and shut it down. Had a bit of trouble, though, figuring out which house was mine. Everything looks so different from the ground. Hope the views play back correctly, since I've heavily edited the snap views file for widescreen.

Rich

You have a house in LOMAC?