Hi everyone!
I'm having problems to pitch trimming. I tried to assign my joystick hat button (thumb up; thumb down) to do it, but it doesn't work at all. Only once worked in my 1.02 version, but just once. It kept failing over and over. I thought that would be over in the 1.12b version but still is the same. I tried do assign these function also to the keyboard but it doesn't work too. I cleared the default setting because I found not handy to fly and so I prefer having the trimming control just under my thumb.
So, if someone could help me out with this I would appreciate that.

Thanks

Elaborate on "cleared the default setting". If you cleared this function from the "keyboard" device- then you have wiped it off completely. Suggest you try the "default" button in the LOMAC input screen, and see if this does not return the commands to their original state. Then- use your stick's programming software to assign these commands to your stick. It's best to use the LOMAC inputs for AXIS commands only. PITCH, ROLL, RUDDER, THRUST.

Many of the others- such as trim, do NOT work right. My experience- for example- was on a Saitek X45. The "trim axis" was the same as the control of the axis itself. Meaning- I assigned the Pitch trim via the LOMAC inputs- and it simply returned to center exactly like the PITCH axis itself does. Obviously- this is not right. A trim axis should not return to center when you release the button.

Thanks for answering Konkussion

Well, by clearing the default setting, I mean I pressed the "clear" button before I pressed the "change" button. Then I pressed this last one and entered the new input to the keyboard, "up" and "down". I did the same thing to assign the hat button to pitch trim. I didn't use the axis, only the button option as you said.

Anyway, I pressed the default button for the keyboard and it became as it was originally. Even so, the default key combination doesn't work. I also pressed the "change" button for the new keys without "clear" the existing setting. I did it both for the keyboard and the joystick. So now there is no wiping off.

I'll try to use my joystick software to assign these functions.

I use a Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox2 Pro Shock

One mistake that can be made is to assign a keystroke or hat switch to the "nose up and nose down" function. When you do this the plane will return to its nose attitude as soon as you release the keystroke.

This does not serve as trim.

Assign the keystroke ---if you want to change the default--to "trim up and trim down" Then when you make a change it will stay changed untill you reverse the direction.

No, I didn't assign it to nose up and down. I tried to use the joystick software but it doesn't work either. Even the default keystroke settings don't work! I'm pretty sure I'm not assigning the hat to other functions. It is only assigned together with "Alt", "Ctrl", "Shift" and "Win" keys combination.
Do you know if there's some config file I should check?
This is really frustrating...

In first place:

Thanks for answering Cobe1


Ok, now I discovered something weird!

I start on instant action in the Su-27. As usually the nose drops down immediately and the trim doesn't work. So I decide to eject and I press ESC and then "recover". I'm right away in the cockpit again and this is what happens:

- The plane starts on a perfect leveled flight and I can maneuver pitch, roll and yaw, but as soon as I try to trim pitch, it will obey to that first input of trimming, up or down, but only to that one. The first one. After that I can't control pitch trim anymore. The plane will insist going up or down, depending the trim input I gave in first place.

The plane is on auto pilot when you start. Disable auto pilot, and you will be able to fly.

Thank you for answering Konkussion.

In fact it doesn´t starts in autopilot and if I restart by using the "rcvr" button, it will start by a perfect leveled flight. Even so, it's not autopilot. I tried to do as you said and when I hit the "A" key, it will then engage the autopilot. If I don't hit the autopilot key, I can immediately regain flight control just by touching the joystick.

But as I said before, if I eject and restart by clicking the "rcvr" button. Only then I have pitch control.... Well... most of the times. It fails quite often. I'm using again the joystick software and it seems to be a little helpful at the moment but it's not one hundred percent reliable.

I tried many ways and it definitely seems to be some sort of bug.
How to fix this? I'm opened to more suggestions...

Use my flight hardware setup page to confirm/ configure your axis settings- make sure you have everything set up properly to begin with.

http://www.freewebs.com/konkus...ardwaresetuppage.htm

Often it's something as simple as having your throttles set to the incorrect axis- like "left Thrust" or something like that. This will cause your plane to fly reeeall screwy, and can be misconstrued as having a problem with another axis.

Read it carefully- go through the whole process. It's also important to have a slight dead zone set up in LOMAC for your PITCH, ROLL & RUDDER axis.


If your stick is properly configured and it continues to fail/lose signal/whatever- then you have a problem with your stick. It's either not installed properly or defective. Nothing in LOMAC would cause it to randomly lose signal from an axis for no reason.

I did all the process step by step as indicated in your page. I'm no longer using the stick's software but the problem remains. The trim will only work lovely after I eject and click the "rcvr" button.
I think there's no problem with the stick because it works fine in other simulators.
I'll try to reinstall the whole thing, though I believe it will happen again since it already happened in the 1.02 version. Anyway, I'll give it a try because I'm not sure if I messed up the keyboard map in that 1.02 version. In this new one I once clicked the "clear" button to the assigned trim up/down keystrokes, though after I clicked the "default" map button and got back the original map setting. Yet, I think the default trim up/down keystroke map never worked in the beginning.
Meanwhile, we'll see what follows...

Cheers

I'm telling you- you need to use the SST for programming your buttons & HATS. Use the LOMAC input screen for the PRIMARY axis' only.. (PITCH,ROLL,RUDDER,THRUST)

Sorry but I'm not sure what do mean by SST. My english is not that good. But if you mean the stick software I just did the programming and still is the same.

Hey! I found a solution for the trimming problem in another forum.

Well, it's not the perfect solution but it works.
Only we have to do is to disable the force feedback of the joystick by editing the 'producer.cfg' located in:

"LockOn\config\ -Folder
and edit from 'true' to 'false'....."

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthr...&posted=1#post725357

Great!!

Thank you guys for your help and time