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Originally posted by xReLeNTLeSs:

No matter what they bring out you wont be going to any other franchise, if you were chopped in half it would say Ghost or Recon, depending on which side of you they looked at.

I dont see what is soo wrong with advanced warfighter, i think OTS view makes it unique and really enjoyable. If they went FPS it would be just another game, and trampled on by COD.

Im all for changes, making it more realistic etc, but dont take it to the extreme like this guy says.....it will be slow boring and dead in a month

wow.....slow.....boring....and dead in a month? Now that is just a retarded statement, sorry for being so rude, but really!? How about taking a look at GHOST RECON, that game is still played by alot of people and it's been around since the beginning. That game was slow, definately not boring, and most definately did not die in a month.

Ghost Recon, at 7 years old is still being played to this day and on average 3oo+ gamers playing per day. This is better than GRAW and GRAW2 and the R6 games. It is currently ranked at #182, down from #171 yesterday. Pretty steady really. These stats are according to Xfire for the PC version.

Yeah Spm, Politika was tied in with a book. Pretty good book too. Politika was a wargame and is and from RSE. Never played it though.

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Originally posted by Cons72:
I think Red Storm Rising was a board game that came out around that time, as well. Not sure if there was ever a computer version.

There was a totally awesome subsim called Red Storm Rising.

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Originally posted by xReLeNTLeSs:
The one thing i dont want for GR above all else, tbh is first person shooting, there is already enuff of those about! I like to over shoulder view, it does make things a lot more tactical and i like tactical.

That's a perfect facepalm moment right there.

You're the kinda guy who can't play with a rope without hanging himself, right? Now get off my lawn.

Respectfully

krise madsen

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Originally posted by krise_madsen:

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Originally posted by Cons72:
I think Red Storm Rising was a board game that came out around that time, as well. Not sure if there was ever a computer version.

There was a totally awesome subsim called Red Storm Rising.

Thanks. Maybe I was confusing Hunt for Red October with Red Storm Rising, and that is the game I could never figure out.

These are fuzzy memories, after all.

Cut relentless some slack, he does probably represent his clan at least and as you can see, he is new to the forums.

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As for you relentless, most of these guys on here (at least it seems to me) are die hard fans of the first Ghost Recon and I can't say I blame some of them for they way they view the newer GRs. If you haven't played the first one I'd suggest you do, If you have then you should understand as to why some of these guys (and gals) would like to see the next installment return to its roots.

What made GR fun and still does to this day? Everyone has their own answers and I'm not speaking for the "community" here but for me its the simple gameplay and how you have to rely on your squad intsead of being a one man wreaking ball.

There was a certain something that the first one had that the newer ones are lacking, and that is choice. Don't get me wrong, I love the GRAWs, but everything feels forced fed to the player in both sp and mp. The old school crowd (myself included) misses being able to make the decision on who and what to bring and how to accomplish the mission. The GRAWs took a step in the right direction as far as being able to pick your teammates go but they are still missing the "I can bring anything I want" factor. They also missed on the fact that its give the game even more replayability if the player can choose which objectives to complete and in what order on a bigger non-linear map. Alot of the action feels "funneled" in the GRAWs, so as to make your first time going through the campaign an amazing experience but the second go round is forgetable at best.

I'm not saying that your opinions are void or anything like that, just keep in mind that when you post, you're posting your ideas and not the community's.
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On a happier note... lol

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Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
Ghost Recon, at 7 years old is still being played to this day and on average 3oo+ gamers playing per day. This is better than GRAW and GRAW2 and the R6 games. It is currently ranked at #182, down from #171 yesterday. Pretty steady really. These stats are according to Xfire for the PC version.

I've been playing the hell of alot of the OGR lately, the newer games don't always quite cut it. And I think I owe you, WhiteKnight77, an appology for ticking you off on the "Community Ideas" forum awhile back. But you were right, OGR is a kickazs game and countinues to be.

Here's to hoping they actually make the next GR a game we all want to play.

I know full well each and every one of you is more than capable of discussing your differences without snide and petty insults so how about you do just that please

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Originally posted by FutureGhost101:
Cut relentless some slack *snip*


I'm not saying that your opinions are void or anything like that, just keep in mind that when you post, you're posting your ideas and not the community's.
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Exactly. A clan is not THE community, it's a small community of narrow-minded gamers (that's not a bad thing, I'm in clans too).

[quote]Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
I know full well each and every one of you is more than capable of discussing your differences without snide and petty insults so how about you do just that please Wink

See relentless' first post. Then look at ours. Subtlety is a lot more powerful than it looks. I'm sure you knew that already though.

Hot damn! He was asking for it but ms-kleaneasy is right, we should at least be civil about disagreements.

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Originally posted by FutureGhost101:


What made GR fun and still does to this day? Everyone has their own answers and I'm not speaking for the "community" here but for me its the simple gameplay and how you have to rely on your squad intsead of being a one man wreaking ball.

Yes, but when you needed to you could soul switch so that you were experiencing all of the aspects of the game, not just ordering your teammates to do something and hope the AI doesn't flub up. In GRAW, all to often I would give an order, to say my sniper, or the guy carrying the Zues, only for them to say negative or run blindly into position to carry out the attack and get killed, forcing me to reload because I couldn't get by otherwise. In the end, I started my entire team with zues's just to avoid the reloads.

It's bound to happen to an FNG when they come in and say FPV would be "slow boring and dead in a month". FNGs always get heckled by the vets because they usually tend to say dumb things.

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Originally posted by XxCH0NGxX:
It's bound to happen to an FNG when they come in and say FPV would be "slow boring and dead in a month". FNGs always get heckled by the vets because they usually tend to say dumb things.

Why can't newbies just LOOK at the past user discussion history on the forums BEFORE they say something that offends pretty much everyone involved in the discussion?

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Originally posted by neilthecellist:

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Originally posted by XxCH0NGxX:
It's bound to happen to an FNG when they come in and say FPV would be "slow boring and dead in a month". FNGs always get heckled by the vets because they usually tend to say dumb things.

Why can't newbies just LOOK at the past user discussion history on the forums BEFORE they say something that offends pretty much everyone involved in the discussion?

Just remember, FNGs are the same ones who get sent after I D ten T wrenches 50 feet of flight line and 5 gallons of rotor wash.

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Originally posted by Cons72:

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Originally posted by krise_madsen:

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Originally posted by Cons72:
I think Red Storm Rising was a board game that came out around that time, as well. Not sure if there was ever a computer version.

There was a totally awesome subsim called Red Storm Rising.

Thanks. Maybe I was confusing Hunt for Red October with Red Storm Rising, and that is the game I could never figure out.

These are fuzzy memories, after all.

I think there was a board game called Red Storm Rising as well. But are you saying you couldn't figure out the subsim?

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Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
I know full well each and every one of you is more than capable of discussing your differences without snide and petty insults so how about you do just that please

Well, I'm old, cranky and short on patience. And when you play with grownups you sometimes get burned.

But what the hey, I'll bite:

@xReLeNTLeSs,

I'm sorry for being harsh with you, but you did kind of ask for it.

Now, there's nothing wrong with you liking GRAW (on consoles) and not wanting to see it change too much. It's a perfectly valid opinion. But when you post stuff like "I represent the community...", it kinda ignores the existence of the other half of the community, i.e. the "old-schoolers", and that doesn't sit well with some of us.

But hey, we're all allowed a few transgressions of our youth, I sure had my fair share in my younger days, so feel free to keep posting.

Respectfully

krise madsen

The way I see it, if Ubi only decided to rebuild the original Ghost Recon for today's technology and add the option for OTS view, they would sell millions!!

(Just my opinion and I'm not a noob or spokesperson lol)

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Originally posted by robboreham:
The way I see it, if Ubi only decided to rebuild the original Ghost Recon for today's technology and add the option for OTS view, they would sell millions!!

They would have to tweak some of the controls or allow players to map their own, but it would definitely be on my wish list.

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Originally posted by robboreham:
The way I see it, if Ubi only decided to rebuild the original Ghost Recon for today's technology and add the option for OTS view, they would sell millions!!

(Just my opinion and I'm not a noob or spokesperson lol)

I'd say you are pretty much right on. As FutureGhost stated, there are a few things they could clean up, but in theory, yes that would be ideal.

Krise,

Yes, I did have trouble figuring out what I was supposed to be doing and how to do it. I was probably 16 at the time, maybe 15. It was well more complicated than Blades of Steele or Mario Brothers.

I for one dont think OGR upgraded with new graphics would cut it. There are so many new things that could be added to OGR to even further enhance the gameplay. We need an evolution of OGR not a updated remake.

**SIGH**....I'm not suggesting that they would actually do that. But IF that was all they did it would still be a COD beater! We are getting hung up on what we could do to improve the game and there are so many things. But let's not forget the fundamental elements that were in OGR and why people still play it now...

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Originally posted by robboreham:
**SIGH**....I'm not suggesting that they would actually do that. But IF that was all they did it would still be a COD beater! We are getting hung up on what we could do to improve the game and there are so many things. But let's not forget the fundamental elements that were in OGR and why people still play it now...

I wasnt having go. If it came across that way i apologise. Just pointing out that evolving the core gameplay is better than remaking a classic but old game. But saying that Id take a OGR remake ahead of GRAW 3 anyday lol.

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Originally posted by robboreham:
The way I see it, if Ubi only decided to rebuild the original Ghost Recon for today's technology and add the option for OTS view, they would sell millions!!

(Just my opinion and I'm not a noob or spokesperson lol)

Now that's an opinion worthy of respect.