Oh comeon! This game is going to be great fun, yeah its not shadow and light splintercell but surley this will be a different experience having a whole new story idea. I see people posting saying this isn't worth getting and there not buying because its not true sc, but they say there true fans. But surley a true fan will buy the scconviction? No offence to people that want the same storyline and gameplay but this is going to be the same team that made all the other splintercell games, and they believe this will be just as good or dare i say it better than the old style, but I personaly think that this could be just as fun.
I will deffently be buying conviction, i have faith in the scteam. KEEP THE FAITH!

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So. What do you want from Ubisoft ? The old Splinter Cell ? Or the fugitive Sam Fisher ?

The old one! We already have Jason Bourne.

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Originally posted by samuraiMike:
UBI, please listen, spliter cell chaus theroy was a step in the right direction. with sam displaying his samurai roots (when he pulls the knife from the admerial). now tack that and run with it. sam belongs to the night. his fighting style should be that of fillipino style.(very deadly) his knife, a double sided kerambit.(a small knife with the potentiol to decap someone very fluidly) and i also have to ask why does sam grabe a person and break their back.there are many effect ways to silently down someone with a knife and im sure sam would love to kill quitly. build this into the new game im asking the only way i know how. give sam the fifth freedom again, let him do his deadly work at night. thank you ubi, thank you.

agreed!!!

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Originally posted by scacjgloves:
Oh comeon! This game is going to be great fun, yeah its not shadow and light splintercell but surley this will be a different experience having a whole new story idea. I see people posting saying this isn't worth getting and there not buying because its not true sc, but they say there true fans. But surley a true fan will buy the scconviction? No offence to people that want the same storyline and gameplay but this is going to be the same team that made all the other splintercell games, and they believe this will be just as good or dare i say it better than the old style, but I personaly think that this could be just as fun.
I will deffently be buying conviction, i have faith in the scteam. KEEP THE FAITH!

I don't remember any one say change the story line just the game play.

I would like to see light/dark mixed with the social stealth concept. That would be so sweet. Like sneaking though an ally in the dark and emerging into a crowded street and blending in with the crowd then into a dark area again. That would be great!!! I hate the idea of taking out light/dark or restricting it to certain levels or areas but I would like to see it used in conjunction with other stealth tactics(ie: hiding around objects, smoke bombs, camo, disguises, distractions, and climbing over buildings). The gadgets and weapons are another aspect I will miss like hacking computer terminals and cameras. wow I really will miss that, maybe another series will take over what this series is abandoning.

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Originally posted by yimimoto:
How about finding out how the new game is before making a big huge public outcry?

I understand there were things people were disappointed about in DA, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to address those in the new game. And if they don't, an outcry would be appropriate.

And yes, I understand about the new game being "taken out of the shadows" but I would still find out more about how it all turns out when the game is out.

well maybe if fans knew that DA was going to minimize on dark light concept b4 DA was published it could have been salvaged.

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Originally posted by shadow_ninja961:

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It's kind of like chewing gum, you don't want to chew the same piece for too long, because then it starts getting boring.

You are right,but you missed your own point.
If you have a favorite kind of Gum like wrigley's spearmint for example,yeah after chewing for awhile it gets old,just like playing Splinter Cell over and over gets old.But a new game in the series comes out and its like a new piece of your fav gum,you chew it/play it,till it gets old.then you want another,and so on and so on... but you don't want a different kind of gum,you still want wrigley's spearmint because thats what you like.

Splinter Cell is like that.Sure a game in the series might get old because you've played it a million times and know each level by heart,but you look forward to another sequel exactly like it but with new missions to accomplish/a new piece of gum to chew just like the last one.

When you already created a game far superior to anything else in its class,there is no reason to think you need to somehow improve it.You cannot improve on perfection.

Ubi in my opinion is trying to fix humpty dumpty after pushing him off the wall. It wasn't broke till they broke it and now they are putting it back together with (some)pieces that were never part of him.

But then there are people who can never be satisfied,and are perpetually unsatiable.
It is to these people who UBI is now serving.

hell yeah could not have put it better my self!

Hello. I haven't been around in a long time either (look at my register date)...

Yeah, I guess I'm sort of old-fashioned. Hey, RED_Hunter_00, I remember when you were Shadownet001. Well, I think I do. I also remember being around when before Jason-Alaska was a moderator. Well, I think I was. Weird.

Anyways, while I'm sure Conviction will be fun, I have to say I miss the old Splinter Cell. Sneaking around in the dark is still fun and I've always wanted to see the origin of a new Splinter Cell agent. But, when we finally see some new guys in SCCT co-op, Sam actually kills one in DA. Ubi has gone way too far. The Splinter Cells will never take Sam back. I'd hate to say it, but it seems that the only way to go back to the roots is to start over with a new Splinter Cell, which means getting rid of Sam, which I could never bring myself to do. Damn shame...

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Originally posted by c_f_logan:
Hello. I haven't been around in a long time either (look at my register date)...

Yeah, I guess I'm sort of old-fashioned. Hey, RED_Hunter_00, I remember when you were Shadownet001. Well, I think I do. I also remember being around when before Jason-Alaska was a moderator. Well, I think I was. Weird.

Anyways, while I'm sure Conviction will be fun, I have to say I miss the old Splinter Cell. Sneaking around in the dark is still fun and I've always wanted to see the origin of a new Splinter Cell agent. But, when we finally see some new guys in SCCT co-op, Sam actually kills one in DA. Ubi has gone way too far. The Splinter Cells will never take Sam back. I'd hate to say it, but it seems that the only way to go back to the roots is to start over with a new Splinter Cell, which means getting rid of Sam, which I could never bring myself to do. Damn shame...

It really is a shame that Ubisoft would completey destroy such a great series. I really hope for the good of all splinter cell players that Ubisoft comes to some kind of realization. If they continue in this direction, this game should no longer be called Splinter Cell: Conviction. No, it should be changed to:

Sam Fisher: Convition

Splinter Cell cannot be used in a game such as this. I also hope that they don't mess up the multiplayer too bad. It needs to be the Spies versus Mercs just like before. That multiplayer mode is thought up very well and may prove to have been the best ever. It is in my opinion the best but nobody ever plays it anymore so there is not much left to enjoy.

Okay this is my first post in the forums but I've been a member since a very long time.

I've played all the Splinter Cell games and I've seen every change that occured during the series... not the multiplayer, I'm talking about the single player modes.

The first in the series, Splinter Cell (1), was just innovative, as compared to games of its time.

Pandora Tomorrow featured even more missions and equipment, but was almost similar to the first.

As for Chaos Theory, I believe it's the best in the series, even far more better than Double Agent. I really liked the animations and the acrobatics in Chaos Theory, as well as the graphics which may be considered the best on the Original Xbox.

Double Agent was a big disappointment. On the Xbox 360 version, they changed the animations they made from top to bottom in Chaos Theory, which were perfect and didn't need any change, to replace them with the animations to make a so-called "next-gen" gameplay. I agree that the graphics I've seen in Double Agent were really great, and Ubi never disappointed us in this matter. But it's just the storyline that kinda sucked. They had to try to make a twist in it in order to avoid the repition that may have occured if they made the same gameplay.

Conviction is already in development. They can't just say "Screw the fugitive Sam Fisher, let's do it all over again". I can see they took the direction of social stealth in Assassin's Creed, and they seem to "kinda like the idea" to take it to Splinter Cell. Assassin's Creed is one whole thing, and Splinter Cell is completely different.

I say we just have to wait for the game to come out, and leave it up to UbiSoft. The guys are amazing.. I'm sure they won't disappoint us.

P.S. There is someone in this thread said that the real Splinter Cell gamers are on this forum. I disagree!

I agree completely. Sure, conviction will offer more open ended gameplay and freedom, but that's not splinter cell. They are going to slap the Splinter Cell name on it to sell it. I wouldn't mind them making it; I'd love to see what Ubi can do with that. But it just doesn't belong in the Splinter Cell universe.

i know its dissapointing that they r changing the gameplay but change is GOOD! i loved PT in fact after i played PT i went and bought the rest of them now conviction looks like a good game to me i mean its becoming more and more realistic which is wat i definately want. i mean settting off car alarms to create distractions blending in with crowds of ppl and their conversations
in a way u can connect SC to the bourne untamatum
Sam worked for the NSA a long time
so did bourne
bourne ended up knowing too much information and was realeased and iis now a fugitive
to me this is wat Conviction is trying to get at
i like this idea
and u may say im not gonna buy this i want the old splinter cell back
but not all bad will come from this
the dawn of a whole new story line new friends but most importantly people who couldnt do the whole shadows thing could get hooked on this new game
so the ppl who no longer are no longer interested in this thats your loss because its gonna be a great game and ppl i guarente will still by it
sorry for being a bit repetitive but i dont care wat anyone says but i believe this game will be a FANTASTIC game
thx for listin and reading my thoughts

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Originally posted by shadow_ninja961:

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It's kind of like chewing gum, you don't want to chew the same piece for too long, because then it starts getting boring.

You are right,but you missed your own point.
If you have a favorite kind of Gum like wrigley's spearmint for example,yeah after chewing for awhile it gets old,just like playing Splinter Cell over and over gets old.But a new game in the series comes out and its like a new piece of your fav gum,you chew it/play it,till it gets old.then you want another,and so on and so on... but you don't want a different kind of gum,you still want wrigley's spearmint because thats what you like.

Splinter Cell is like that.Sure a game in the series might get old because you've played it a million times and know each level by heart,but you look forward to another sequel exactly like it but with new missions to accomplish/a new piece of gum to chew just like the last one.

When you already created a game far superior to anything else in its class,there is no reason to think you need to somehow improve it.You cannot improve on perfection.

Ubi in my opinion is trying to fix humpty dumpty after pushing him off the wall. It wasn't broke till they broke it and now they are putting it back together with (some)pieces that were never part of him.

But then there are people who can never be satisfied,and are perpetually unsatiable.
It is to these people who UBI is now serving.

Still on point. Nothing here has really changed yet.

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spelling mistakes in the OPSAT info allowed by Shanghai

I thought I was the only one that thought they were making up words! Lol, I'm glad somebody else noticed something, too.

ok lol i dont even know why ppl are arguing on that: THE GAME ISNT EVEN OUT YET. and they wont screw it up cause if you played all the games you kn ow that the NSA is a secret organization so nobody knows about them but the gouvernement, but in SC: DA the mission turned bad cause the only ones to know that fisher went on a mission was Lambert and Fisher, and i think that in ConViction Sam and Lambert will work together to find proofs that fisher was undercover. and pls instead of arguing on pointless things try to imagine of what youll do in conviction. Oh and who the hell told you guys that fisher wont work in the darkness anymore i mean we saw like 40-50 seconds of gameplay that maybe isnt going to be in the game.

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Originally posted by Alex_skater:
ok lol i dont even know why ppl are arguing on that: THE GAME ISNT EVEN OUT YET. and they wont screw it up cause if you played all the games you kn ow that the NSA is a secret organization so nobody knows about them but the gouvernement, but in SC: DA the mission turned bad cause the only ones to know that fisher went on a mission was Lambert and Fisher, and i think that in ConViction Sam and Lambert will work together to find proofs that fisher was undercover. and pls instead of arguing on pointless things try to imagine of what youll do in conviction. Oh and who the hell told you guys that fisher wont work in the darkness anymore i mean we saw like 40-50 seconds of gameplay that maybe isnt going to be in the game.

I'll tell you who the hell told us, one of the devs explaining that shadows will no longer be able to hide Sam. Besides, you're the one bumping up this old thread, nobody here was arguing about anything.

What's the thing with all this "true fan" stuff. Every forum keeps saying that about every game. Splinter Cell was new and different when it came, no problem but this slightly bigger change is driving "the true fans" crazy. Some of the "true fans" are ready to flush everything away to just get the old L/S so game could be called SC. Im ready to stand by Splinter Cell and Conviction if they keep deserving it, and Im not standing by many other games.

You aknowledge that it might be you standing in way of Splinter Cell evolution? Splinter Cell has no set finish line so all this is just road to it, SC won't last forever so no sense making 10 same games rusting Ubi talent. Conviction might just be a bigger test for new features used in future for maximal SC. Currently you are just preventing that by wanting the old SC back. Conviction has lots of new things that are, of course, the more advertised, though nothing is certain yet. That complaining might have forced them to to make game over (not likely, thank god) and over again which means everything would be postponed and Conviction might become omelet of unclearliness, senseless mix of old and new. The ultimate bad no one wants, useless considering the future.

Opinions, critism and suggestions are great, but the current way just says no, no, no, make the old game again, nothing new, or I will not buy it. Many have already said they won't buy it. Do you even have any constructive suggestions, or just conservative opinions and criticism? Now the real suggestions would be useful. You can't be happy with the game suggestions I have seen: the old Spy vs. Merc and CT style campaign with 1 to 2 new items and moves, and maps that have exactly the same style than CT. Where are the suggestions to Conviction, besides throwing it to thrash?

Matrix blue and red pill comparison is perfect. Ubi wanted to make new game, they could have killed Sam and Splinter Cell in DA so they can move on, but that wouldn't have been the best option. Now the Splinter Cell can continue.

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Originally posted by Alex_skater:
ok lol i dont even know why ppl are arguing on that: THE GAME ISNT EVEN OUT YET. and they wont screw it up cause if you played all the games you kn ow that the NSA is a secret organization so nobody knows about them but the gouvernement, but in SC: DA the mission turned bad cause the only ones to know that fisher went on a mission was Lambert and Fisher, and i think that in ConViction Sam and Lambert will work together to find proofs that fisher was undercover. and pls instead of arguing on pointless things try to imagine of what youll do in conviction. Oh and who the hell told you guys that fisher wont work in the darkness anymore i mean we saw like 40-50 seconds of gameplay that maybe isnt going to be in the game.
[QUOTE]I'll tell you who the hell told us, one of the devs explaining that shadows will no longer be able to hide Sam. Besides, you're the one bumping up this old thread, nobody here was arguing about anything.

Who and when? I heard that some parts of L/S will be there from Ferland, plus looking at various other places make it even more confusing.

Besides, earlier it was all about L/S, so I could see it being ignored in interviews because it isn't the entire game. Sam can't count just on it while being fugitive. New things are usually more advertised than the familiar ones. It's still early anyways. Would adding the L/S be enough for you guys, or should Sam work for NSA under Lambert and Grimsdottir using his good old gear for the game to be SC? L/S feature wouldn't be that unbelieveable to see, but the complete change to CT2 would.

well i like ct kind of gameplay but da still good the thing i want back is the Tradicional HUD

but graphics are going in right way i didnt like SO mucha the eleccions it is good but 3 ends ? only 1 is true in conviction you know wich one is :/

I hope conviction's multiplayer builds off of the multi in DA, which was fantastic as far as I'm concerned. It turned playing as a spy from being a shock-gun spamming nade dropping killing machine into an actual silent infiltrator, and playing as a spy in DA actually gets your heart pumping, as opposed to PT/CT where if you play your cards right you're never in any serious danger.

Well i can almost guarantee that things will never go back to the beloved ways of old. Ubi is a huge gaming corporation, therefore they may not care what a bunch of oldschool junkies like us believe. They want money and we need to realize that is a big factor. I would love to get the old SC back witha spinoff towards a new agent maybe some newer gadgets featured ing the book (sticky ear, voodoo dust, darts for the Sc pistol, updatable OPSAT, etc.). It would be great to follow a new trainee of Third Escheleon fresly picked from the United States Special Force. But Ubi is not thinking about satisfying us, they are thinking about money like i said before. But if they go with Conviction's storyline, IT WILL KILL SPLINTER CELL ALTOGETHER. So vote yes on the traditional SC we know and love. You guys have my full support.