I'm not sure if it's this thread that I should ask this,

but in the walkthrough, placing the guys, grouped with the jeeps, to follow the circle around the island,
I managed to get them to hop into their jeeps and driving, but for both jeeps, the tires spin and the steering works, but they just aren't able to move, like their tied into their grouping box, maybe. What's going on, here?
Thanks!!
BTW, this is prolly the best manual I've ever seen!!

Ahahh!

It may depend, as I sort of expected, on how you group your groups . As I interpreted the manual, because of my experience with art programs with similar interfaces, I drew a box around the jeep and two soldiers, then in the top menu area hit group>group.

Whether or not I changed my group id number, they behaved correctly, but couldn't drive out of that "Group 1" or "Group 2" box.

When checking, over and over again, the parameters I put into each entity, I had to use 'Group>Open' in order to select and manipulate any individual out of the group, then close them up again using the same menu.

After finding that these values were all correct, for the hell of it, I UNgrouped them, then triggered them, and away they went!

So if anyone else has this problem, while following the walkthrough, you can only group them in the parameter field to the right of the work window by giving them the same group number. You cannot do so by using the 'Group' button in the top area of the editor.

This might be an editor bug, not sure. Good luck!!

Having not put much time into Sandbox yet, I may be totally off here, but I've always understood the menu 'Group' option to be similar to that of CAD programs - you select one, you select all of them together. Any operations you do affect all of them equally.

Whereas setting a vehicle and soldier group's ID to be the same, seemed to me to be saying that you're tying them together in an AI sense, but not in a physically-binding sense. And that's why the menu 'Group' option screws up their behavior.

It appears so.

i just got it printed out, and man, i didnt think 179 pages was a lot, until i saw the stack of paper the printer spit out, man its like 3 cm thick, lol.

will be easier to do stuff now, for some reason stuff is easyer when u read it on paper.

Magnetmannen,

since Tim has been working on manual v1.1, you might have wanted to wait printing out the current version 1.0

BTW, Tim any ETA on the new version?

AEon

I have a possible error in the manual for you:

In Appendix A, in the Vegetation Object Parameters table, there is no entry explaining the parameter RealTimeShadow. I'm not sure what the difference is between this and CastShadow.

Version 1.1 of the documentation has just been released, along with a FAQ. Links below.

ftp://ftp.ubisoft.com/games/farcry/manual/Sandbox_Editor_FAQ.zip

ftp://ftp.ubisoft.com/games/farcry/manual/Sandbox_Editor_User_Manual_v1.1.zip

Neat,
I am very much looking forward to the FAQ...

Swoop started his own FAQ, and I also started to collect a few questions/answers... maybe we could help by posting our infos...

AEon

I just noticed people asking TIm about the status of the documention. FYI, Tim (tobedetermined) is no longer working on this title -- he moved on within the company, and I am his replacement. So please direct comments/questions/flames/wariness/apprehension/feedback/carrier pigeons/anything else I left out in my direction.

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Originally posted by djnogg:
I just noticed people asking TIm about the status of the documention. FYI, Tim (tobedetermined) is no longer working on this title -- he moved on within the company, and I am his replacement. So please direct comments/questions/flames/wariness/apprehension/feedback/carrier pigeons/anything else I left out in my direction.

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I have a petty question. Do you guys have a document with ONLY the changes and additions to the manual since the last revision? Printing 188 pages again would be a bummer. Thanks!



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web design/pc repair in Colorado

Was it really necessary to quote him to ask that question?

There is a list of amendments detailed on the very last page of the manual. If you have already printed out the manual, you should be able to just reprint the altered pages, and slip them into your original. At least I hope it will be that easy .

aka Tim Partlett

Thanks Tim!


Any word on an Advanced Editing doc in the horizon?

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web design/pc repair in Colorado

Alright, im having a few problems with farcry, but i lov eit so far.
1. In the game, all the graphics but the ground (only dirt, grass no metal) is black, i can see trees and what not just fine. idk what to do for this.
2.the game is awsome for about 2 minutes, then it gets extremely laggy. this happens especially when i enter a vechile. i time it and it took (when it was laggy) about 2 min. for me to walk foward a bit, then about another min later, just smooth as can be.
3. im having some diffuculty with the editor, i can make some land, but when i generate surface texture, it stays red, ive had the game for about 1-2 days, so im a noob at this. Im not sure what i have to do next. Occasionally, after it finishes generating, it will give a big list of errors, saying something like the render was too big for the window i think. and it said this would be fixed in further releases.
4. The 180 page sandbox manual that pirana posted, the link when i tried did not work. is there another site i could go to douwnload this? i really think i need this.

any help would really be awsome. please someone help me!!! thx, Algae

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Originally posted by Algae998:
Alright, im having a few problems with farcry, but i lov eit so far.
1. In the game, all the graphics but the ground (only dirt, grass no metal) is black, i can see trees and what not just fine. idk what to do for this.
2.the game is awsome for about 2 minutes, then it gets extremely laggy. this happens especially when i enter a vechile. i time it and it took (when it was laggy) about 2 min. for me to walk foward a bit, then about another min later, just smooth as can be.
3. im having some diffuculty with the editor, i can make some land, but when i generate surface texture, it stays red, ive had the game for about 1-2 days, so im a noob at this. Im not sure what i have to do next. Occasionally, after it finishes generating, it will give a big list of errors, saying something like the render was too big for the window i think. and it said this would be fixed in further releases.
4. The 180 page sandbox manual that pirana posted, the link when i tried did not work. is there another site i could go to douwnload this? i really think i need this.

any help would really be awsome. please someone help me!!! thx, Algae

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#1,2: What are your system's specs exactly? Sounds like a memory or video card issue....
#3: Red texture means its missing or is unrendered. Also can mean you didn't start by doing File, New first. You can't jump right in and start editing without doing that first. Secondly - You need to do a File, Generate Surface Textures after any change in terrain or adding/changing textures.
#4: Try using an FTP program instead of IE if you're using the ftp link.
Hope that helps.

Swooperz
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web design/pc repair in Colorado

Thanks, helped alot, switched out my vid card with my dads, and works like a charm, even graphics in editor. only one last thing i can think of... when im in the editor, ill place a jeep, then when i play it, or get closer the area under the jeep turns black, a big black square. if you dont know, no biggy. thanks already tho.
Algae

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Originally posted by AE-on:
I have a few problems fully understanding how to place the ViewArea and Portals from the infos in the walkthrough presented in the manual.

The indoor tutorial IMO is pretty clear and seems to work for me. But the tutorial on how to cut into a mountain, and then properly use portals to control the FOV never seems to work correctly. I.e. tunnel walls black, missing, there is a distinct glitch in display when passing the portals, you can look through the tunnel, but the other side shows no terrain, until you are in the tunnel etc...

Alas the screenshot is too blurry in the manual, and from my tests it seems to be mandatory to place the ViewArea and the Portals exactly. To make it short:

Could the walkthrough map used in the manual be made available for download? That way we could check things, i.e. to make sure that the portals can actually work properly, and how to place them.

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Exactly the part I had trouble with. Couldn't see through my tunnel either, even though I did it as the manual showed (I think I did anyway, the shots are a bit too blurry to see). Was gonna ask for the map file too, shame he's deleted it. Any chance you could do it again and let us download to see how it should be done? I also had some trouble with the sound, when I'm in the inner island there's no sound but on the beach is fine...

Hey, I've tried workign a bit with the chainswing1 and have had it attack to an object, like a rock head. But I how do you attack the chain to anther object so it hangs the suspended object? I.E. suspend a box or crate from a crane. i know you enter the object's name into the ab AttachTo but do you also use the ab AttachToUp? ive tried it before and didnt work. thanks,
Algae

I think we're getting a bit off-topic here as this is a discussion on the actual documentation (details, improvements, updates, etc.) and not a how-to section, so I will recommend that you do an Advanced Search on 'fun with chainswing' - There you will find what you are looking for. Good luck!

BTW - you can also try the irc channel on irc.beyondirc.net, channel #farcry-mappers. There you can get live help.


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