Why cant people Just?:
Do it ONCE do it RIGHT

like biz said.Nobody asked for weapon balancing in 1.4 but we still got it.and only now its being fixed a waste of time imo.
How come the only bugs people wanted fixing such as bino bug were not able to be solved by people working on 1.4 but people giving their spare time to help out on xtv3.
I agree though thats this is gonna just split the community futher as we now have 4 options of patches 1.33,1.4,1.4xt,1.41
How will this fix anything.
You say its better than doing nothing making this patch well surely helping out the xt team wouldnt call for the release of this patch.

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Originally posted by rjforbes:
Where is the GLSSM? I can't find it.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/112105592/m/74...021042255#1021042255

@jugatsu- The cmdrate is not locked by the scripts. It's with my recommended PB config. Server admins may adjust as they please.

@whatalegend- I haven't seen a 1.33 server since a few days after the patch came out. I just checked and there aren't any current ones. As far as the split between 1.4 and XT, again...that is up to each player and each server admin. It's no different than the 1.1 vs 1.2 days. People will play however they choose. This just gives an option to have lots of features of 1.4, but with the beloved SAW stats and without the XT mod installation hassles, lag, and .NET crashes.

For the record, I did try to work with the XT mod team soon after 1.4 was released. We came to an agreement to work together, but it never came to fruition.

Hey mr doc i aint played ur patch yet just wondering how the p90 is now because if shotgun is back to 1.33 then and p90 reamins 1.4 then theres not really a very useful secondary weapon

There aren't any changes beyond the original post. From what I have seen the last few days, most people are still in 1.4 shottie mode. Others like the faster move speed of the P90. The 1.33 shottie is still nasty, it just does ~60 less damage per shot. I also see it used on XT servers a lot which is 1.33.

Ah so p90 is still like a water pistol then against grunts?

Just so people are clear as I have already had some PM's (not sure because of Crymod or my names in the main post). This is NOT an official patch, its a mod that is not associated with Crytek or UBISOFT and is not supported by either organisation. If you have technical issues, please contact Doc. He has made it clear in the title header is not official.

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Originally posted by DocSEAL:
**Note: Do not have SCRIPTS141.pak in your FCData folder if connecting to a server that is not patched to 1.41. Your client feedback will not match up to server output.

Does this not mean a PB Kick on 1.4 Servers as they cant detect whether the file has been altered for cheats and may result in a ban from servers.

The XT Bino Bug fix I wrote was intended for Clients, not servers. If you just have 1.4 and not Docs unofficial mod, then when you connect to a 1.41 server, you will still be able to use the Bino Bug. Unless you prevented 1.4 users to connect to a Doc server, then the script is useless

It is a nice mod though Doc. Will these changes be incorporated into PX MP?

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The extra file is not allowed on my 1.4 PB config, so the player would be kicked unless the admin added it to the whitefilelist. The majority of servers are not currently running PB so this is not really an issue.

1.41 servers cannot kick 1.4 clients any more than XT servers can. I really don't see the difference. I'm trying to work something out with PB atm.

These changes will not go into PX except the canvas fix. It's already in the mod.

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Originally posted by DocSEAL:
1.41 servers cannot kick 1.4 clients any more than XT servers can. I really don't see the difference. I'm trying to work something out with PB atm.

After working with the Punksbusted.com staff last night I found some errors in my PB config which prevented the kick of the 1.4 clients on a 1.41 server. It will now kick if you don't have 1.41 installed. Furthermore, I have updated my 1.4 config with the new updates.

UPDATED 1.41 PB server config

UPDATED 1.4 PB server config

Ive seen this mod in use now but i dont like it myself though i would have to say thanks to the creator for at least putting in the time.

What I dont like is the Grunt has been given the best of both worlds, they have been given back their better settings for the SAW and also been allowed to keep the big increase in armor levels that was given when farcy went to 1.4 making the Grunt just too much advanced as an opponent, engies and snipers stand no chance now. Im dying 5 times before i get to kill the same Grunt once.

well, when it was the other way around, the GRUNT had the problems.. you cant please everyone all the time. However 1.41. is almost like the MAKER intended. I had a brief look at the aussie servers tonight. 36 people playing.. I havent seen that many in a long time.. Before 1.41 i would notice between 2 and 12 on a friday night.. So with a 75% improvement i'd say that something has gone right in Australia. Unreal. I cant wait to play it myself again. Doc, You Roc.

@Charben- Most people in the community are of the opinion that the Grunt should be the dominant class in Far Cry. While the 1.4 goal was to pretty much try to balance it all out, this didn't go over well.

@Boz- Thx for the kind words. Glad to see the guys from Down Under enjoying and back playing.

Hi Doc..or anyone?? does 1.41 mostly effect Assult players? I mostly play FFA,and some TDM with the =FEAR= clan ...the SAW is weaker, and the shotgun stronger now???
Thanks....

1.4 made the SAW weaker and the shotgun stronger. 1.41 reverts both of these weapons to 1.33 levels (strong SAW...less strong shottie.) These changes are for all MP game modes.

Thanx DOC ..u rock..

Quite frankly, I think this patch stinks. The sniper fix is unnecessary, and it still doesn't really help an engy from being killed almost immediately when engaged by a grunt. It also appears that collision walls removed by 1.4 are now back in. No wonder it's an unofficial patch.

Thanks Doc for putting in the time on this.

My personal view is that all the tweaking work to get the balance of weapons in 1.4 went out the window by putting the SAW back to 1.3 levels. I know some people whined about losing the uber weapon, but 1.4 is fun because it is harder to kill people. All the guns were utilized and close up battles brought the game more excitement. With 1.41 we are back to killing from 1/2 mile away by a running grunt. You kill quicker and die quicker.
I would rather see people use 1.33 instead since the stamina and armor levels were meant for the weapons balance in that patch.

I am sticking with the official 1.40.

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Originally posted by fabulouscoops:
I would rather see people use 1.33

Precisely. Perhaps we should all just go back to the patch that made this game what it was..?

Me thinks so.

Pull 1.4 and all its subsequent revisions from the UBI server and let's get back to FC.


Edit: I'm still waiting for a fix as to why in 1.4 Profiles can't be used...

Hello,
Will this work if I run it as a mod?



Thanks.

You can run the Docs files from the mod folder, like any mod, but the only problem is that the servers wont be running it in a "mod mode" like your client will be, thus you wont be able to connect to anything online.

You best option is that if you want to connect to a server running the 1.41 mod, then follow Docs instructions.

Hi guys are there more 1.4 or 1.41 servers?