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Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
With the other thread and this one I've really been itching to try some of these games but as has been stated, it can be kind of rough learning all the rules and setting up a game, esp when you may not have but one or two friends interested. Does anyone know if there is a PC version of any of the Avalon Hill board games? After reading the last thread a found my old copy of Risk II for the PC, and it is still the board game with the same rules and same fun, without the hassle. It even has an advanced war board game with more complex rules and many more territories etc., but I would love to find a PC version of these classic war board games, maybe Axis and Allies or something...

Pc version? I don't believe so urufu. that would indeed be nice I guess but the tactile feel of a board with it's superior overview to a monitor and moving pieces by hand and setting up defenses that way is imo even better.

i don't know something about setting up a nice war gaming table makes one feel like a general practicing actual military war games.

and besides you can leave it up all the time to go back to it at your leisure and it won't cost you a dime in electricity or monopolize your computer.

I suppose I can use a digital camera and "Save" my progress, lol.

You can find 'Third Reich' for p.c. - needs dosbox or similar. Plays insanely fast during a.i. turns and is very hard to get into with no manual unless you've been playing the original boardgame recently. Graphically, it's not too bad - looks like counters on a map, hard to get that wrong, I know. Problems with sound, but I'd put a c.d. on while playing. I've looked at it a few times and there's something there that harks back to the boardgame - I'd like to give it a go when I've got much more time to figure out the move sequence - might be easier with the original manual in front of me. Don't know how I'd stand posting a link, but google should get you there if you're really keen to give it a go.

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Originally posted by stalkervision:

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Originally posted by Messaschnitzel:
Yeah, I had 'Panzer Leader', and 'Tobruk'. The last time I played an Avalon Hill game was back in the late 1990's, unfortunately. Like the others have said, it's a lot easier to start and play a computer game like 'Rome: Total War', and not have to bother setting up before playing, and then have to pick up afterwards.

Besides, I like seeing the little p!ssant formations get bowled over and torn up by the catapultae. My favorite is to set one catapult unit to shoot solid shot while the other unit chucks the fireballs. You can't get that sort of satisfaction from a board game unless you actually set the cardboard pieces on fire.

oh what evil thoughts you have Messaschnitzel.

shame on you!

Seriously though, I will cringe a little when a plane catches fire in IL2. Do you recall how the pilot and/or observer would sometimes jump from a burning plane and would scream on the way down in the old Red Baron II game? The first time I heard this was when I was going past a two seater that I just finished torching. I thought that it was my imagination at first, but after hearing it again I knew it was part of the game. It startled me though, and caused me to really consider how it could happen in the real world. Even playing the later flight sims including IL2, I will let off after a plane starts bleeding out of multiple fuel strikes, or starts smoking by more than just a thin ribbon. Even though it is merely a game, it is supposed to imitate what would possibly happen in real life. If I keep on blasting a plane after it is really disabled, then I feel that it is too much like curbing someone after they were knocked out or unconscious in real life.

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Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
I suppose I can use a digital camera and "Save" my progress, lol.

You read my mind. great idea Urufu.

I got this for you. I bet you will like it..

Try PZ general two and three..


http://panzergeneral.org/SSI%20Downloads.htm


Pz g 2 and three extremely addicting.

No board too! well it's a board game without a board.

and they are FREE!

here is another PG 2 site U/S that might be better.

http://panzergeneral2.com/pg1.htm

Ha! I found another avelon series game I forgot about.


"Richthofen's war" a ww 1 flight combat sim game.

very cool.

Use to play and still have some of the Avalon Hill games, France 1940, Luftwaffe and another by Mayfair Games, War in the Falklands and Wake Island. As Urufu_Shinjiro states earlier... it can be kind of rough learning all the rules and setting up a game, esp when you may not have but one or two friends interested.

A normal game of France 1940 could take 2 hours to setup and 6 hours or more to play and you had to play both sides because France always lost.

So we would play them more around snow days or etc. I picked up playing the games in the service and a few of my friends a one of my brother's would play quite offen until the middle 80's or so. And have to say we had some great times playing those games and drank many a beer also.

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Originally posted by woofiedog:
Use to play and still have some of the Avalon Hill games, France 1940, Luftwaffe and another by Mayfair Games, War in the Falklands and Wake Island. As Urufu_Shinjiro states earlier... it can be kind of rough learning all the rules and setting up a game, esp when you may not have but one or two friends interested.

A normal game of France 1940 could take 2 hours to setup and 6 hours or more to play and you had to play both sides because France always lost.

So we would play them more around snow days or etc. I picked up playing the games in the service and a few of my friends a one of my brother's would play quite offen until the middle 80's or so. And have to say we had some great times playing those games and drank many a beer also.

great times huh? Ya I hear you. France 1940 is a real classic. beer only makes it that much better woofie.

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Originally posted by TS_Sancho:
Any of you old cusses remember Ogre or Car Wars?

I played Car Wars back in the day, never tried Ogre though. The only Avalon Hill game I ever had and played a lot of played was Runequest, the fantasy RPG. I gave it all away years ago, kinda wish I hadn't though, I don't roleplay any more but I liked flicking through it now and again for nostalgias sake.