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530 quid

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The economies really really boned

All I can say is WOW!

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Originally posted by stalkervision:
All I can say is WOW!

It runs crysis at 2fps more than a GX2, like hoe my gawwwd

Despite it having almost as many pipelines as two 9800gtx combined on one die, twice as much bandwidth and twice as much everything else it actually runs FSX slower than a 9800gtx...not the gx2...yes a gtx...according to tomshardware

HAHAHAHAH its the new fx 5800, in fact this is worse. It's so bad I might go and take shares out in Matrox.

total and utter lemming

Nvidia have lost the plot

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Originally posted by Aimail101:

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Originally posted by stalkervision:
All I can say is WOW!

It runs crysis at 2fps more than a GX2, like hoe my gawwwd

Despite it having almost as many pipelines as two 9800gtx combined on one die, twice as much bandwidth and twice as much everything else it actually runs FSX slower than a 9800gtx...not the gx2...yes a gtx...according to tomshardware

HAHAHAHAH its the new fx 5800, in fact this is worse. It's so bad I might go and take shares out in Matrox.

total and utter lemming

With all that extra power, what makes it run so poorly? Is it the drivers?

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Originally posted by Choctaw111:

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Originally posted by Aimail101:

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Originally posted by stalkervision:
All I can say is WOW!

It runs crysis at 2fps more than a GX2, like hoe my gawwwd

Despite it having almost as many pipelines as two 9800gtx combined on one die, twice as much bandwidth and twice as much everything else it actually runs FSX slower than a 9800gtx...not the gx2...yes a gtx...according to tomshardware

HAHAHAHAH its the new fx 5800, in fact this is worse. It's so bad I might go and take shares out in Matrox. total and utter lemming

With all that extra power, what makes it run so poorly? Is it the drivers?

I have no clue about the FSX benchmarks. But I didnt expect it to be much faster than SLI 9800GTX, although I expected it to be better than it is. 8800GT SLI beats it quite often, Looks like SLI drivers have matured. (bloody typical after buying an intel based board)



What is silly is the asking price, those cards would be nice if they were 200 quid cheaper and 55nm. Sucks to be nvidia heheh.

The Inquirer were right, hot loud and expensive.

You're entirely missing the point of the card, Aimail101.

The card is designed to provide graphics AND additional processing power. New games won't yet be able to make use of it.

Look at it as not so much a graphics card as a combination of a graphics card AND an extra CPU in one package.

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Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
You're entirely missing the point of the card, Aimail101.

The card is designed to provide graphics AND additional processing power. New games won't yet be able to make use of it.

Look at it as not so much a graphics card as a combination of a graphics card AND an extra CPU in one package.

Really? hmmmm, havnt seen that mentioned in any reviews. Heard nothing about it being a CGPU

It's mentioned in the link you gave.

Nvidia is also targetting the high performance computing community with GPU-only systems (no connections for a monitor) and offers compilers for it. It's all on Nvidia's website.

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Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
It's mentioned in the link you gave.

Nvidia is also targetting the high performance computing community with GPU-only systems (no connections for a monitor) and offers compilers for it. It's all on Nvidia's website.

Oh that, it can offload physics....didnt help much in UT3

For folding I dont see the point in it, the 4870s going to better at that and cheaper. For gaming why not just go with cheaper SLI

This GT280 is a GT80 scaled up thats all, nothing really new.

You are correct that if you want to run a game that has not been coded to make use of the GPU then it won't make use of it. However it is likely in the future that games will make use of the GPU, and then it will be a potentially cost effective upgrade. Basically the card has come ahead of the games making use of it. It doesn't mean, as you suggested, that Nvidia doesn't know what it is doing, though.

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Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
You are correct that if you want to run a game that has not been coded to make use of the GPU then it won't make use of it. However it is likely in the future that games will make use of the GPU, and then it will be a potentially cost effective upgrade. Basically the card has come ahead of the games making use of it. It doesn't mean, as you suggested, that Nvidia doesn't know what it is doing, though.

Is Crysis really that badly coded then lol?

Im going to wait and see about this card, I think the 55nm version could be good. Especially at a lower price but I don't see games "making use" of it anymore than say UT3 does which is coded to offload its physics. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Still Nvidia have shown in the past that they didnt know what they were doing with the huge FX flop. I get the feeling that this is going to be a bigger flop, a cards reputation is often based on its release. If its released louder, hotter more expensive and no faster than a GX2 Nvidia are going to have to come up with a really good PR scheme to sell it.

I think when the 280 hits the 350 pound mark, then its a sane buy. At the moment cramming all of that onto a 65nm board is apparently hugely expensive for nvidia.

How could someone live with 56dB at idle?

No, it has got nothing to do with bad coding, merely absent coding. It's like saying that a game has bad coding if it isn't able to make use of one of those Aegia Physx cards.

The idea behind the card is that it gives you a GX2 graphics card plus a CPU upgrade for those games that support it.

It's a relatively low risk strategy as Nvidia is selling the GPU-only version at a reasonable level as an HPC tool and the same cores in smaller multiples as a graphics card. If the combined card doesn't sell then they just slightly tweak the fab plants and produce more of the HPC and standard cards. It's lower risk than the Aegia Physx as it is using the same cores as a standard graphics card. Game developers are getting more used to offloading physics calculations to other threads - this is what is done via the FPU halo on the Xbox 360 and PS3 (which have different but similar IBM chips).

It might be that Nvidia has been a bit early to market with this as the game support is thin on the ground.

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How could someone live with 56dB at idle?

It's about as loud as any other high performance gaming card, from personal experience.