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Inscribed in marble inlaid with gold in all studios around the world these days. We live in stupid times. Intellectual bottom-lining to the limit. |
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Even though I love Deep Blue World, it still has a couple of those rules.
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Brilliant And this bit is superb: 10) The laws of aerodynamics and gravity do not apply to movie warplanes. Those meddling idiots on internet forums don't pay our wages - gullible uneducated kids in search of cheap thrills and romantic mush that puts their girls in the mood for a grope on the bus home do.[/QUOTE] Many thanks for making my day, MB_Avro. |
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Ah you silly Europeans, we North Americans all have our own gas-guzzling, baby seal killing, ozone depleting SUVs because we like to do this in the privacy that tinted windows can afford us, not on some sketchy bus ---------------- Life's too short to date ugly chicks |
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Well they could, but Von Richtofen should be protrayed as he really was, but then again are ny other nation's war heroes always protrayed accurately?? |
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Well they at least cast a bloke who looked like Audie Murphy in 'To Hell And Back'. |
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Yep, they threw out the middlemen and cast Murphy to play Murphy!
Not a bad film, either. |
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Trailers: The 10 rules seem much in evidence, especially in the latest offering.
Red Baron Uh-oh, looks like we've got a nurse-humpin'-alienate-your-best-mate epic here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVUU3b3S7M Blue Max O.k. it was the general's wife rather than a nurse and they weren't really bosom buddies. Good movie though, it has to be said. The book's better - the main character is far more dislikeable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efc6Y6LCuuc Aces High (fan vid) I quite like this one, even if Stearman crop-dusters are much in evidence. No nurse in this one although the c.o. is at it with the rookie's sister. Scenes of prostitution and a magic lantern porn show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35X_Msv2pYU Dawn Patrol Can't remember a nurse in this one - sure there was one. Hints at the horrors of war beneath Niven and Flynn's boozing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdyZUh-nhSM Flyboys You've got to love the 100 metre sprint along the burning Zeppelin. Feindish black-clad Germans, Effette Britons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHMbm_gxfyM There is one for Hell's Angels (The airborne scenes are very good for the time - especially the crew abandoning the Zep - Jean Harlow was the nurse in this one) but the Man O' War song it's set to makes me puke even more than Iron Maiden over Battle of Britain, and that's quite an achievement. |
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Where did they get that baby-faced, Blue Boy ingenue fresh from the catamite section of the most lurid Berlin gay clubs? That's supposed to be the chisel-faced Prussian hard-case Manfred von Richthofen? And, where did they get the schoolboy dialogue straight from some Disney after school adventure series ("Manny and His Red Plane!"). If it wasn't so embarrassing it would be laughable. Oh, and of course the biplanes hiss and buzz like gigantic wasps on methamphetamines. No more the balletic realism of the near-slow-motion dogfights of THE BLUE MAX. Isn't computer animation charming?
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Some of that CGI from both Flyboys & Red Baron looked really good - some of it was pretty obvious CGI. No constants. It's been mentioned before that the majority of todays ticket buying public are too used to matrix style action sequences to get into a comparatively slow WWI dogfight.
Please German forum dudes, tell us we're wrong and this movie is a Das Boot for the 21st century. |
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Watching those exaggerated swarms in 1916 -when fighters still flew in small groups or even alone- just did the disenchantment on me. No way so many could fly that way without colliding continuously.
And the boy "flying" on that horse... what a cliche. |
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Notta chance. Das Boot was based on a superlative novel. DB was gritty. DB was not afraid of unpleasantness. DB did not have a political agenda. DB was uncompromising in its realism. DB was for adults, not children. RB is a bitta date fluff for Euro 15-somethings with non-threatening characters ("Ach, Manfred is just like me, I like him!"), hyperaction, and lotsa pretty images. Oh and isn't it swell Manfred was a pacifist rather than a nasty, old fashioned, unreconstituted Saupreussen? |
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They could have done better by making the film a bit more intellectual, if they needed to make up for the slow pace of ww1 combat they could have made the action and feel of the movie a bit more surreal. think apocalypse now or parts of the thin red line. The added suspense/psychological element would detract from the slower fighting. Also I don't know why but in a lot of ww2\ww1 aviation films, the pilots are portrayed as a bit boyish/effeminate leitmotive. No idea why. |
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if a film doesn't show girls with big hooters in the first five minutes I lose interest..
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That's a good point Aimail - I've noticed t.v. has polarised with Jeremy Kyle (that's like Jerry Springer but really low class for those from foreign shores) at one extreme and the medieval mind series at the other. Cinema (at least English speaking) is playing to a very low intellectual denominator and alienating potential customers. There is room for both entertainment and mental stimulation - even education, IMHO.
There could be a balletic beauty in slow dogfights akin to the sequences in 'Hero' for example. I think it was Ploughman who described 1940's movies as a window into the world from which they came. Our windows need a chuffing good clean. Edit: See stalky above for example of low intellectual denominator. |
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