What I find irritating Andy is that whilst this sort of stuff is going on: Left wing libertarians such as yourself and Right Wing libertarians such as Leitmotiv and Blutarski are busy arguing over inconsequential b******s.
An enemy of your enemy is your friend, people need to remember this. I don't get this current divide between these two political camps, for example the global warming thread. Personally I believe that it's real but I don't want to go about solving it in the lefts manner. I think strengthening property rights/laws in certain areas would help to combat pollution and encouraging the development of new technologies.
I'm just trying to highlight the fact that I think the two sides need listen and cooperate with one another more, so as to effectively deal with the darker sides of the current unlimited government forms of conservatism and socialism we are seeing.