Hi all,

Today and yesterday I have been spending my spare time decorating my house.

Using a brush and a pot of paint. Also using a paint pad..20th Century advancement

But the same equipment was being used 300 years ago at least!

Why have'nt we progressed in the past 300 years?

I want a 'Mod' that paints my house. Is that too much to ask??


Best Regards,
Moulting Brush.

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what has changed in 300 years?

Well, some parts of England I was in now have heat AND hot water, right there in the house with you!

I think its what Paul Weller called "All Mod Cons"

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Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Today and yesterday I have been spending my spare time decorating my house.

Using a brush and a pot of paint. Also using a paint pad..20th Century advancement

But the same equipment was being used 300 years ago at least!

Why have'nt we progressed in the past 300 years?

I want a 'Mod' that paints my house. Is that too much to ask??


Best Regards,
Moulting Brush.

Get a big huuuge spray gun and an NBC suit.

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Originally posted by Aimail101:

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Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Today and yesterday I have been spending my spare time decorating my house.

Using a brush and a pot of paint. Also using a paint pad..20th Century advancement

But the same equipment was being used 300 years ago at least!

Why have'nt we progressed in the past 300 years?

I want a 'Mod' that paints my house. Is that too much to ask??


Best Regards,
Moulting Brush.

Get a big huuuge spray gun and an NBC suit.

I used to work in the construction business doing remodeling and specializing in vintage house restoration.

The only things new in painting over the past 300 years,are:undercoats/stain killers,and as Aimail101 said,spray guns.
You may want to consider renting an airless paint sprayer,the best are Graco(best by far).

IF you do that cover EVERYTHING(paint mist),and don't put you're hand within a foot of the spray tip,or you'll literally inject whatever you're spraying into yourself.They develop 3000+ psi! It's basically a hydraulic pump that's electrically driven,and can do 2 hours of roller/brushwork(professional crew),in 5 min.

There are still of course,the standard air-powered spray guns like they use on cars,but when it comes to houses there are VERY few air compressor powered spray guns these days.

And forget the NBC suit,you've got to deal with the fumes unless you've got LOTS of moto-X tear-aways,because your 'window' would be covered in paint in 10 min.
You do need to cover all you can,especially if it's oil base(alkyd).

Painting the house? Don't you have something better to spend your money on,like a new joystick/monitor/aviation book etc etc.

You might want to throw in there (the 300 years) that paints are no longer lead-based, the absence of whitewash & distemper, and the greatly-improved thixotropic qualities of modern paints. Plus a far greater range of colours than existed in the 1700's, as well as the diminished need for scraping or burning off the previous coats of gloss (and whitewash of course) when undertaking a re-dec. Modern paints also dry out much more quickly than their old-fashioned counterparts

Personally I find the painting of my house a particularly restful occupation. Most amateurs get in trouble through trying to lay on too much paint at a time. The answer lies in setting up a rhythm when you're laying on a coat - and it's a pure delight when you learn to pace yourself. Always use a paint 'kettle' rather than the tin it comes in. The kettle is smaller, more handy, and if you do have an accident then you have only lost a small amount of paint. A plus point is that the paint tin doesn't get that coating around the rim that makes a half empty tin difficult to re-seal. There's nothing worse than returning a couple of years later to find that your half tin of colour-matched gloss is as hard as a rock.

I guess the biggest change in 300 years is the (imo) foolish desire that everything gets done as soon as possible. There may be some call for spray-painting in an industrial setting, like constructing a quantity of housing that is unoccupied and unfurnished, but the task of "covering everything" plus the masking off of all switches, windows and everything else you don't want painted seems a self-defeating exercise. I can cut a neat line around a light switch using a 5" emulsion brush - so could you if you tried The art is to enjoy the task as much as you enjoy the result.

B

Lots of changes. I assume you have electricity and power tools and you are not painting by candlelight.

In the colonies, we hire people to take care of that nonsense while we sit on the beach without sunblock, sipping ice cold Budweiser, eating hot dogs and working away at our scratch-off lottery tickets while listening to the Doobie Brothers on our Ipods and oggling 18 year old sex pots wearing skimpy bikinis.

Absolutely Breeze! The British obsession with DIY (do-it-yourself) is really out-dated and steals jobs from those who are properly trained to do them. In at least 75% of cases it costs more in the long term too, once all the mistakes that are made by amateurs are taken into consideration.

Pirsch, yeah, I take the point about electric lighting, but it's worth noting that some of the finest house painting was actually done before the advent of electric tools or even gas lighting.

B

You can just go to the hardware store ask for some
"used paint"

It comes in the shape a house.

Never mind painting, I've spent the best part of two days wall papering my kids bedrooms. It seems so easy when people on TV do it, why does mine look so shabby?

I hate DIY, it is the curse of the gods.

MB_Avro_UK from someone whose also been decorating recently you've my sympathies, not only is there no (affordable) improvements in how we do the job but when fixing new light fittings you still have to run through the same arguments because the person detailed to hold the light in place while you wire it up inevitably moves taking the light with them and the job ends up taking years longer than it needs

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Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
Pirsch, yeah, I take the point about electric lighting, but it's worth noting that some of the finest house painting was actually done before the advent of electric tools or even gas lighting.

B

..and before 5pm.

I've finished the shower room and am close to finishing the computer room.

Last time I ever do this painting thing

The finish is not to the standard I aimed for. The coverage even after two coats looks uneven in certain light.

I'll get a professional for the rest
And when he asks,"What joker painted your shower and computer room?", I'll blame someone else.....!!

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Originally posted by Esel1964:

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Originally posted by Aimail101:

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Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Today and yesterday I have been spending my spare time decorating my house.

Using a brush and a pot of paint. Also using a paint pad..20th Century advancement

But the same equipment was being used 300 years ago at least!

Why have'nt we progressed in the past 300 years?

I want a 'Mod' that paints my house. Is that too much to ask??


Best Regards,
Moulting Brush.

Get a big huuuge spray gun and an NBC suit.

I used to work in the construction business doing remodeling and specializing in vintage house restoration.

The only things new in painting over the past 300 years,are:undercoats/stain killers,and as Aimail101 said,spray guns.
You may want to consider renting an airless paint sprayer,the best are Graco(best by far).

IF you do that cover EVERYTHING(paint mist),and don't put you're hand within a foot of the spray tip,or you'll literally inject whatever you're spraying into yourself.They develop 3000+ psi! It's basically a hydraulic pump that's electrically driven,and can do 2 hours of roller/brushwork(professional crew),in 5 min.

There are still of course,the standard air-powered spray guns like they use on cars,but when it comes to houses there are VERY few air compressor powered spray guns these days.

And forget the NBC suit,you've got to deal with the fumes unless you've got LOTS of moto-X tear-aways,because your 'window' would be covered in paint in 10 min.
You do need to cover all you can,especially if it's oil base(alkyd).

I used to work at a cabinet shop and we had a similar airless sprayer. I don't remember the pump maker but the spray gun was a Kremlin and I fell in love with the thing. The pump was compressed air driven and a little air was added at the nozzle to help atomization. We sprayed our stuff with a conversion varnish and it went on smooth as a babies butt in two coats! I loved it. Could spray a whole kitchen worth of cabinets including doors by myself in a week!.