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First off, let me start by saying: BOOYAH! AMERICA, F**K YAH!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzxqARN0Huv38n5pgDfdBRwuoiZgD925JFD00
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It was't "lost" before and it's not "won" yet either. |
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Whether you agree with GW about going into Iraq or not, you cannot fault him for will to win---even to the point of sacking his Sec of Defense and outraging the American Left by reinforcing the mission with the "Surge." If he had four more years, I'd wager we would win---as would the Iraqis. If Obama wins, it likely will be 1973-75 all over again with Democrats ditching our ally, and sending it to ruin---with horrible consequences.
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The term "winning" is quite off, as GW has already declared the war being "over".
The goatfeckers, however, didn't quite agree and kept on crashing GW's party. That's been 5yrs ago. We can only HOPE the trend right now continues and the people in Iraq can FINALLY live in peace in a coupke of months/ years. |
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people seem to forget that when Germany was defeated in May 45 and the Hostilities had "officially" ended. that it took several more years for the Nazi loyalist violence to stop.
Winning a war is more than just defeating another countries Military. its about changing the mindset afterwards. ***************************** BSS_CUDA Co-Founder of my family U.S.Navy retired 1978-1982 U.S.S. Belleau Wood LHA-3 BSS214.com That was some of the best flying I've seen yet! right up to the part where you got killed. you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman. Jester : TopGun |
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Nazi loyalist violence.
People being busy searching and finding their relatives, re-building their houses and being driven away from their houses and homes hardly have any time sympathising with a past regime that caused all their misery. And those few that couldn't accept reality certainly didn't blow up market-places and police-stations. There is a little difference between a country that resets from the start (Germany past '45) and a country that's being misused for somebody else's ideology battle (Iraq). |
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You can take this REPLY as a personal warning cut the bull**** out, I thought we were past the ignorant stage in this off topic forum Ive been proven wrong last few days. |
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They should have added the words "by us" to the end of that quote. The American media declared defeat long ago, bet it hurt for them to finally admit defeat. |
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What the heck are you talking about? What Nazi loyalist violence years after the deafeat? All that comes to mind were a few isolated "werwolf" actions which had no backing from the population whatsoever, were very limited in number and stopped soon. Those "Germany/Japan" comparisons to the current Afghanistan/Iraq wars are bare nonsense. The situations are so completly different the mere attempt to compare them speaks volumens of culturual and historic ignorance. Look, go to a library and get yourself a history book. Seriously, it helps. Bewolf Never discuss with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. |
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Yes, pray tell. I have never in my life heard of post war nazi loyalist violence. If anything I have heard that the Germans were largely welcoming of the Western Allies.
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Hey guys, Lets not jump on Cuda too hard, I think I know where he's comeing from.
A couple of years ago there was a Doc on the Werwolf stuff on TV, it focused pretty heavy on it and left you with a fealing that it was a major problem for many years. Not being a historian, it left me with the feeling that I didn't know everything and that it was some kind of new evidence. |
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Agreed. Given Cuda's track record I don't think he's trolling or anything. Maybe he's just misinformed; no reason to hang him. I have inside information that he's human. |
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All Cuda was trying to point out, was that this mind set that "peace" will happen in Iraq if the U.S were to leave is pure fantasy. At least one thing we are doing over there is trying to keep it to a minimum. Some of those guys would love nothing more than for us to leave so they could have a field day without the watch dogs.
There wasn't peace there before we showed up if you cast your mind back far enough. Saddam was not Mr. Nice Guy, his sons weren't nice, his trusted staff wasn't nice. It was not the land of milk and honey, nor was it the land of peace. Iran/Iraq war? Kuwait invasion? Religious killings? |
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Oooh, why can we all just get along?
It's only a misunderstanding, sure we can solve it with songs, kisses and hugs. |
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Not agreed to the peace before. Saddam was pretty much under control. He had a big mouth to not lose face to Iran and neighbouring powers, but he didn't have anything in his hands. That was commonly known and repeated again and again in the UN debates. There is a reason there was never a resolution agreeing to a war and why nobody took the US serious there, the british prime minister an exception out of a false grasp of history. Agreed to the killing not stopping if the US pulls out, it rather will come up again. That is why I really have mixed feelings about the US leaving the area. The US was warned, the sh*t hit the fan, we had our fair share of Schadenfreude...but whatever the past, now Iraq has to be rebuilt, and the success of that will be a measurement for the western world as a whole. That is one reason why I actually think Germany and other european nations should helkp out there, too, even if it is only civilian stuff. It is in our very own interest. Bewolf Never discuss with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. |
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