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Hey you guys remember the title to this thread? If you keep up this hijacking I'm callin a Federal Marshal. Hit sham dell.
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Its a flying bug with a glowing butt, or a Malaysian Airline I see. But what do you mean by Firefly sir? Please splain.
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He's refering to Firefly by Joss Whedon. Easily the most enjoyable SF series I have seen in a great long while. Humanity colonises space. Ethnic groups and corporations establish their own colonies. As people push further and further outwards from the civilised core planets, those on the fringes have to find their own ways of getting by. When civilisation catches up with them and wants to impose their own rules, people tend to get upset. Basically it's a retelling of frontier life in a sci-fi setting. Brilliantly done too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series) *********************************************** "Nineteen years of age, eight years public education, three years military service. Intelligent, normally observant and answered all questions freely. He was arrogant and proud to be a pilot. Fellow prisoners in hospital consider him mentally unstable."
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Thanks Feathered, that looks cool.
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I finally got around to seeing the Star Trek movie today [I would have seen it in the theater, but they edit out everything here... muy annoying]. I'd agree with others here. Great movie, a lot of fun, good cast.
However, the time travel part of star trek writing has always bothered me a bit. It is overused. It seems a bit too convenient as a problem (and solution) to too many of their stories. In this case they completely changed the canon of TOS. What about that episode when Spock travels back to Vulcan for mating. Now vulcan is gone. Whatever happened to that 7 year mating thing? Spock and uhuru together!...
Anyway, minor complaints. I hope they make some more of these.
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Yeah, I agree, they do seem to have gotten a little out of hand using time travel as a plot device. Besides, everyone knows that there's really only one way to travel in time...
Now, don't go Navajo, come and let me know, are you all reet?
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quote: Originally posted by huggy87: I finally got around to seeing the Star Trek movie today [I would have seen it in the theater, but they edit out everything here... muy annoying]. I'd agree with others here. Great movie, a lot of fun, good cast.
However, the time travel part of star trek writing has always bothered me a bit. It is overused. It seems a bit too convenient as a problem (and solution) to too many of their stories. In this case they completely changed the canon of TOS. What about that episode when Spock travels back to Vulcan for mating. Now vulcan is gone. Whatever happened to that 7 year mating thing? Spock and uhuru together!...
Anyway, minor complaints. I hope they make some more of these.
That was a part of the brilliance of what they did. In one fell swoop they kept the meat, which has always been the characters.. but opened up a whole new avenue for storytelling. I thought it was brilliantly done.. especially the Spock on Spock bit. I thought it was great the way they set that up. Once the Romulan went back in time and killed one person.. the timeline was changed... Everett's many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics suggests that all possible quantum events can occur in mutually exclusive histories. These alternate, or parallel, histories would form a branching tree symbolizing all possible outcomes of any interaction. If all possibilities exist, any paradoxes could be explained by having the paradoxical events happening in a different universe. Remember that episode of TNG where Worf was coming back from the bat'leth tournament and somehow got into an alternate univers.. remember when the fissure was opening up in the end and all the other Enterprises were popping up? The presence of old Spock tells us that all the old stuff did indeen happen even if it now will not happen. I find the whole time travel thing awesome.
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quote: Originally posted by Feathered_IV: He's refering to Firefly by Joss Whedon. Easily the most enjoyable SF series I have seen in a great long while. Humanity colonises space. Ethnic groups and corporations establish their own colonies. As people push further and further outwards from the civilised core planets, those on the fringes have to find their own ways of getting by. When civilisation catches up with them and wants to impose their own rules, people tend to get upset.
Basically it's a retelling of frontier life in a sci-fi setting. Brilliantly done too.
Firefly is basically post American Civil War Confederacy ... in space. SciFi purists do not like it but its actually a great show and a shame it fell victim to uni educated marketing men and network politics. Back on Topic ... I have to agree that the plot twist in the star trek movie designed to allow a whole new generation of non-Rodenberry TV shows and Movies was something of a coup on the part of the script writers
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