Ubisoft is French? Then how come their HQ address is "San Francisco" on the back cover of their games? Oh, and I'm sorry about classifying the people in the UK as one type of people. See, I'm an American. So appearently, I'm not too good at telling what a person is based on their region (from other parts of the world). Just like people from the rest of the world consider me to be a "Northern American". That's not necessarily true. I'm a "NORTHEASTERN" American. "Northern" Americans are usually people from like Minnesota or Wisconsin (at least that's what we Northeasterners think).


I didn't mean to be "Racist" about saying that Turkey and France are bad countries for the Driver series. They're not great in the series (at least that's what I think). And "Racism" is saying $#!+ about a certain group of people. I don't recall saying anything about that.


I think the Driver series is best in the USA, Canada, Bermuda, Australia, and/or UK. Because it then has a good and solid feel to it, since they all have something in common with each other (like languages, cultures, etc). And I won't change my opinion on that.

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Originally posted by Driverman2006:
Ubisoft is French? Then how come their HQ address is "San Francisco" on the back cover of their games? Oh, and I'm sorry about classifying the people in the UK as one type of people. See, I'm an American. So appearently, I'm not too good at telling what a person is based on their region (from other parts of the world). Just like people from the rest of the world consider me to be a "Northern American". That's not necessarily true. I'm a "NORTHEASTERN" American. "Northern" Americans are usually people from like Minnesota or Wisconsin (at least that's what we Northeasterners think).


I didn't mean to be "Racist" about saying that Turkey and France are bad countries for the Driver series. They're not great in the series (at least that's what I think). And "Racism" is saying $#!+ about a certain group of people. I don't recall saying anything about that.


I think the Driver series is best in the USA, Canada, Bermuda, Australia, and/or UK. Because it then has a good and solid feel to it, since they all have something in common with each other (like languages, cultures, etc). And I won't change my opinion on that.

I don't expect u to change ur view. and btw i mean ubisoft was originaly french. And when I called u racist it was because of the way u were talking about people in france, middle east etc. You say racism is when u only target one group well if i call somebody a 'french poof' then thats ok because its two diffeent groups? I do not think so. Anyway I think we should go back to the subject in hand Driver. And i forgive u for the british remark I can be gulty of it myself when talking about forgein people.

I'm English.

And seriously I agree, thats why i broguht up the point on UK, he was sayign that they are different provinces. We are countries of our own.

And it was the terrorism comments that were borderline racist. And just absically the afct that Nice was so awesome. I loved the cars in Istanbul though. nad the old town in Nice is beauitful and great for stunts.

Miami in D3 was lame in comparison to the other two cities. NY in DPL was lamer yet.

Come to think of it, San Fransisco was the only fun US city in Driver. No, Chicago was cool too, with all its drawbridges and elevated trains to weave around. (hint hint we need a cheat code to keep the drawbridges at perfect launch angle on all future games)

Other than those two cities, the only good ones were Havana, Rio, Nice, and Istanbul. Miami in the first one was ok, but only because that bridge you could jump.

I agree. And San Francisco was SOOO awesme in the first game.

And Nice was proabablymy favoruite settign in all Driver games (i don't count PL as a Driver game, and i don't need to anyway, cus it's locations were dull).

I wish Nice went a bit deeper than just following the coastline, I always found myself on the same streets. Other than that I loved it.

I wish the coastline was more populated by cars and people. And that obstacles like bins and bustops were destrcutable liek they woudl be in real life, or least damagable so when you crashed, they were also damaged.

I hated rammign into a lampost to find myself 50 metres away from it, and it without a scratch.

Oh yeah, I really hated driving the larger vehicles because they don't show damage, whats the point?

Reflections, On the freeways, I want to see 18 wheelers, for using them as "blocks" for the cops behind you. A row of cops in pursuit, cut off a TT and watch it jackknife behind you, blockade off the cops. Great action.

Driv3r and DPL had tractor + trailer rigs, but none actually driving on their own. A freeway isn't really fun without spotting an 18 wheeler somewhere.

More weather effects too. Sunny days are nice, but some fog, rain, snow would be welcome once every five days in the game.

Seeing as the semi's were one of the most asked for vehicles, you'd think they would appear more often. I also thought this was annoying. But I guess it was all just the physics of having many trucks driving around and having a hinge on it, I don't know. Its next generation now, I think we'll see them now.

Let me see what I find the most hated in Driver games. It would have to be the fact that Driver's on-foot and other features (even the driving) have converted themselves to the ways of Rockstar North. Removing Film Director, adding side missions in, and having things like floating stars in to collect, were perhaps the most annoying ideas of Reflections, for DPL. As for the other Driver games, they've always been so full of glitches and the frame rates got to be bad at some point (D1's was the best), especially with D2, whose frame rate annoyed the hell out of me whenever it would slow down.

Even the weapons of D3 can be considered as practically uninteresting, not only because there were only 8 weapons, but they just didn't fit much of the game's missions or other experiences that well enough. And the inclusion of boats didn't pay off. It's far better to include land vehicles than any other vehicle type and to have these only be ones like cars, trucks, vans, and motorcycles because they're the best on getting from one street to the other and simply because other vehicle types only make Driver more of a GTA clone. Plus, I don't trust Reflections enough to think that they'll do an amazing job on this.

Also, I hated D2's soundtrack the most. It could be said that Driver and Driver: Parallel Lines's soundtracks were the best. I didn't find D3's soundtrack too impressive either, as the cities were not the very best that could've been chosen and simply because it wasn't all about hollywood car chases.

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Driver 2 was certainly a game that I enjoyed, which I was able to play for quite some time before the original, but after I've played through the original, I felt that everything in D2 was downgraded. The graphics, frame rate, music, storyline, missions, characters, etc., everything was worse than the original. At today's time, I don't think that I'd feel so inclined to play D2 because it can, for all I care, be considered a bad game, not only because this is not the 5th generation anymore, but it did practically everything worse than the original Driver game. There is simply nothing I like about D2 much at all.

Driv3r too, is not such a good game. There is hardly anything that can be found impressive because of the many glitches, visuals, AI, sound (the soundtrack was terrible), the story, and the on-foot.

Driver Parallel Lines was another game that I wasn't too happy with. I found the on-foot to be pointless (not very many interiors to explore, weak shoot-outs, little moves to use against the enemy, etc.). The soundtrack is great, except for that of the time period 2006. The visuals aren't very impressive at all, being a very similar style to that of GTA and not any much better than D3. Its gameplay dropped many aspects of the Driver franchise which made it even more of a letdown. Of course, to be honest with you, I've not been able to play through the whole game, nor with that of D3, but I do intend to watch videos, read strategy guides, and other things to know more about them. Other than that, being presented to them both was not impressive at all.

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I agree that if you're going to include boats, offer more to do for the boat, like a stunt course, narrow waterways to speed through, more ramps, more action. The boats in Driv3r are pretty dull, and aren't even necessary to the main game beyond a few boating missions.

Boats and planes are nice, but really just distractions to the main event.

If you haven't noticed InsaneDriver06, I've made some edits to my post before that of yours, so I hope that you can respond to that as well. It would make me feel more glad. Please do so, if you can.

Driver 1 is a great game for its time for many reasons, Driving style, FD, great chases, but the missions towards the end were too frustrating to enjoy IMO.

Driver 2's framerate is really the deciding factor. Either the gamer can tolerate the slo-motion, or not. I personally liked the game, but the PS1 didn't offer enough power for Reflections' game engine. The on foot while mostly without purpose, was a nice addition I was waiting for.

Driv3r felt too slow with a top speed of 88 mph, too spread out in terms of vehicles and pedestrians, like a ghost town. The on foot was a bit clumsy while jumping especially and the auto aim was not reliable or necessary. The driving was the best part of the game, as FD didn't deliver the features of D1. Crashing in Driv3r head on is a dull experience when it should be thrilling.

DPL has the best framerate of the series, with speeds up to 140 mph, tons of traffic to weave through, plenty of variety in terrain thanks to central park for some great jumps, and a nice selection of well controlled vehicles and motorcycles. The on foot, while welcome, didn't offer much beyond shooting and car jacking, so it got dull and felt a bit pointless. No climbing, swimming, jumping on top of vehicles, etc. Too little physical interaction with the surroundings. Bring back the speedometer.

One thing that brings me back to the games is the driving style of Reflections. No other game feels quite like Driver, especially veering around corners with the emergency brake. Great physics in the series must return, but be taken to another level of intensity.

One thing I don't like is the lack of an option to remove the HUD/display/meters. Driv3r being the worst with onscreen clutter. I'll know my car broke down when it's smoking and not moving.

-I'm sick of the bad on foot A.I.
I mean if the driver is supposed to be a game where you >>DRIVE<< and you implement an on foot scenario at least make it half decent not trying to jump over something or run away from somebody and you hit an object, u look like your trying to take a dump in mid air

-i'm sick of bad police A.I.
put better police a.i. (more challenging to drive away from) and if they go to shoot they actually hit you (makes more challenging)

-if you steal a cop car (or a car in general) and you show no sign of anything wrong and drive accordingly the cops immediately know, like if u take to the streets and run away and steal a car half way across town they know excatly where u are(but i guess that basiclly contredicts what i jst complained about)

*i think the customization is a great idea and the multiplayer aswell and together they work perfectly because if there are other people that u can talk to u can show off ur sweet ride
(INSIDE AND OUT)<- I think there should upgradeable engines and stuff like that because if u have faster engine the easier get aways and kickin' decals

*Aswell customizable characters sort of like Saints Row and Saints Row 2 >BUT< not as in depth for better gameplay

*also female characters because my sis' kept buggin' me why you couldn't play as a girl

That's all that i can think for right now but if i think of more i'll let u know James

*also i'm goin by DRIV3R so don't bite my head off if anything did change in DPL

*I like the idea of swimming under water

*I want there to be a way to shoot while in your car (but not a driveby) like shoot straight foreward because in D3 ur partner was the one that shot while driving, so either u can shoot or u have a mountable gun that u control

*pedestrians commit like crimes murder, theft, and select missions like kidnapping

*The idea of hand to hand combat intrigues me and would be interesting see, some guy tries to steal ur car and u say "I must warn u i know kung fu" he says "yeah, yeah, give me the keys"
u say "don't say i didn't warn u" and then u beat the C.R.A.P. out of him (told'ya so)

* you should be able to enter buildings

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Originally posted by Dylan77:
-I'm sick of the bad on foot A.I.
I mean if the driver is supposed to be a game where you >>DRIVE<< and you implement an on foot scenario at least make it half decent not trying to jump over something or run away from somebody and you hit an object, u look like your trying to take a dump in mid air

lol, They definitely improved on the character animations in DPL, compared to Driv3r's clumsy Tanner jumps.

well in driver: parallel lines we didn't get to jump at all.

They should have made it so tanner couldn't jump then nobody could have complained.

I still would say the in-game animations where better in driver: parallel lines.

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Originally posted by driver_madness:
well in driver: parallel lines we didn't get to jump at all.

They should have made it so tanner couldn't jump then nobody could have complained.

I still would say the in-game animations where better in driver: parallel lines.

Yeah, DPL, no jumping. Not much fun since they're including on foot, but stripped it of almost all abilities but run, walk, squat, car jack, attack and shoot.

Well at least they included on foot.
I couldn't see the driver series without on-foot again but if they keep it limited, I'll be happy.
And for jumping, I don't really care, it's the driving I like after all. But I like to stroll around find(jack) another car and blow up some vehicles.

I'm a bit tired of the dull on foot gameplay in the Driver series. Crank it up by bringing us right there over the shoulder of Tanner(RE4 and FPS view), and offer some great on foot chases that can spring into action whenever you spot a crook on the street in free roam and during some parts of missions when not driving/riding.