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Sorry for so many threads.


But. What do you guys think the most advanced plane is in IL2 (Fighter) or (Fighter Bomber)?

It can be a jet, or whatever. Ingame, what is the most advanced. Not your favorite, not the best, but the most advanced. Thank you. Smile



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Go-229
 
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YP-80
Go-229
Do-335



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Go-229


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Sorry for so many threads.


Oh come on! You expect us to believe that?
 
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You don't have to believe a true thing. Sorry.



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Also by advanced, I mean also like witch one had more modern or advanced cockpits. But it has to be advanced plane.



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The most advanced prop fighter in IL-2 is the one which isn't there.

P-51H. Far superior performance to any other production WWII Prop aircraft.

The most advanced Jet fighter could be anything, depending on whether you accept the fantasy aircraft as being credible. Doing that provides highly dubious results. For example, the only flying prototype of the G0-229 crashed on its third flight, killing the pilot.

If you are only looking at production aircraft, it would probably be one of the Soviet Jets from 1946, or the Me-262 or YP-80. If you are restricting the criteria to actual WWII production aircraft, then the 262 is the obvious choice.
 
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P-80
ME-163

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The most advanced Jet fighter could be anything, depending on whether you accept the fantasy aircraft as being credible. Doing that provides highly dubious results. For example, the only flying prototype of the G0-229 crashed on its third flight, killing the pilot.

If you are only looking at production aircraft, it would probably be one of the Soviet Jets from 1946, or the Me-262 or YP-80. If you are restricting the criteria to actual WWII production aircraft, then the 262 is the obvious choice.




Anyplane without mods in the game as long as its a fighter or fighter bomber will do for the most advanced plane.


Also wthout mods.



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Most advanced? Probably the Me-163.
 
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The most advanced prop fighter in IL-2 is the one which isn't there.

P-51H. Far superior performance to any other production WWII Prop aircraft.



Eh? The Ta-152 is only like 10mph slower at altitude, and it is much better armed.
 
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The most advanced prop fighter in IL-2 is the one which isn't there.

P-51H. Far superior performance to any other production WWII Prop aircraft.



Eh? The Ta-152 is only like 10mph slower at altitude, and it is much better armed.


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La-9


Sorry, but apart from great armament (4 23mm cannon) there is absolutely nothing exceptional about that craft. It was as good as the La-7 performance-wise, but made to last i.e made of metal. After the war the Soviet air force had thousands of basically semi-disposable aircraft built for wartime that it had to replace. The La-9 is what I would call an evolutionary rather than revolutionary development in fighter design. It was a match for the late war piston fighters, but in no way radical or advanced. And it's not in the game. Tongue



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P-51H. Far superior performance to any other production WWII Prop aircraft.


Considering it had a plain old carbureted engine, the P51H does pretty well.



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On the bomber side, there can be little doubt that the B-29 was, easily, the most advanced.

On the fighter side, the late war piston fighters had all reached a similar level of sophistication. The writing was on the wall, however, for piston power, so we're left with the turbine powered fighters to choose from. Of these, the one most like the generations of fighters to come is the YP-80. The MiG-9 also has some of the traits of later generations of jet fighters, but the Lockheed is a more comprehensive answer to the question of how to build a jet fighter.


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That's pretty disingenuous to the Soviet's erco. The P-80 is *an* answer to how to build a jet fighter, but there is nothing inherently wrong with the Mig-9. In fact, it arguably was a better fit for the needs of the country that produced it. While the P-80 was an OK dogfighter, it didn't have the range/endurance (before adding a bunch of drop tanks) to escort bombers (which is what was really what the US needed at that point), and the .50 cal armament, while sufficient for WWII, was already starting to show it's age by 1945 (Every other major combatant was using cannon as the primary armament).

Conversly, the Mig-9 is a great fit for the operational requirements of the Soviets (especially given that it was essentially their first jet fighter). They knew what the B-29 was capable of (remember, they got a few that landed in Russia), and so knew that it was the future of American airpower. The twin engine, heavy armament Mig-9 is a great interceptor. Sure, it can't dog fight very well (for a variety of reasons, mostly revolving around the weapons), it isn't supposed to. It's job is to shoot down bombers. The later Migs (Up untill the -19) continued the tradition of bomber destruction as the primary role.

Realistically, given the progression of Jet development, it's far more fair to compare the Mig-9 to the P-59, and the YP-80 to the later Mig-9s or maybe even the Mig-15, in terms of development times and experience with jet engines.

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If you dont look just at the performance but technical advantageness, I'd say Me-262 and Focke-Wulf 190s... Bearcat and Sea Fury too, if post-war aircraft that saw no action are counted.
 
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