Hi all,

Does anyone know the ranges of motions for WW2 ac sticks?

For example, the 109. At the top of the stick, what is the range of motion in cm?(forward, backward, left, right).

Also, how tall was the stick?

I'd also like to know the same for the travel of the pedals and the distance between them.

Fritz

my replica kg13 is ~0.5m tall from base to top, ~45cm from pivot to top. this has a range of movement of ~30cm total in both fore and aft and side to side motion.

some pics might be of use?





not sure if pedal dimensions are there but this site is worth digging through for technical drawings
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/index.htm.

hope this helps

Someboby's desigggninnng!...

Nice and clean 'pit design.

However, it seems such a shame to go to all that length and use a typical-size monitor, with its necessarily tiny apparent field of view, way out on the cowling. Wouldn't the vertical--and possibly the top horizontal--armoured windscreen framing get in the way?

This kind of thing would be the shinizzle when used with a full hemispheric(or larger) "wrap-around" display!

Bear at the 1% AvHistory group answered a similar question about the AT-6 Texan US advanced combat trainer.

IIRC he said the range of motion would cover a box about 15-16 inches on each side. He was not asked & did not say anything about the pedal range. He did say the gear handle was low on the left side & pulled to the right then moved rearward about 6-7 inches to raise the gear.

He posted some great pictures on his site but unfortunately no detailed ones of the cockpit interior. Here are a couple.






Also said that the US stickes tended to be longer the others to give better leverage at high speeds. He did not say how much "longer" actually was.

I am not sure who is flying with him but I do know that his partner GregoryP is a licensed aerobatics instructor pilot.

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Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Hi all,

Does anyone know the ranges of motions for WW2 ac sticks?

For example, the 109. At the top of the stick, what is the range of motion in cm?(forward, backward, left, right).

Also, how tall was the stick?

I'd also like to know the same for the travel of the pedals and the distance between them.

Fritz

From memory, the stick is 47cm high, range of motion 15 degrees to both sides (ie. 30 degrees in total).

Thanks for the input guyz.

The reason I am asking is that I've often thought of building a pit. But rather than a physical replica, my goal is to replicate the connection between the controls and the pilot.

If I built a pit, it would look nothing like a real pit but the motions the user would have would be authentic. The range of motion at the top is very important while the length of the stick would be irrelevant. So it's quite possible that the stick might be only 35cm while the range is accurate.

Practical rather than cosmetic.

Fritz

Have you posted here its a specific pit builders forum at SimHq.com which has a big IL-2 following?

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=81&page=1

Hey, I hadn't seen that.

Thanx Reisen

The AvHistory 1% guys just posted this & regardless of your choice of sims its good to see the guys building a lot of these planes actually get out & test thier stuff in real life planes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVzLARzIihA

Its shows nice aerobatice & is about 7 minutes long at youtube The title is BEAR-AvH flys ACM in an AT-6 Texan.