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Originally posted by TinyTim:
Funny thing here is that .50cal in IL-2 can destroy a Tiger.


What are you smoking? Hell will freeze over long before you'll destroy a Tiger with 50cals in IL-2.
 
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I think I smell a screenshot coming!
 
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Oh wow here we go onto that fairy tail again.
50cal destroying tigers yeah, but the 75mm shell of the Shermans bounced off, how does that fit?


Shermans don't fly. Nor were they all armed with the 75/38. Nor did they all shoot the front hull or turret.
There is record of an M-8 engine-killing a Tiger from under 100 ft directly behind with a 37mm gun.

I wouldn't give credence to a plane killing a buttoned-up Tiger with 50 cals. If that could happen they wouldn't
have bothered with bombs and rockets. Even 20mm AP would be a stretch though those engine vents at the back....


Ah yes first the talk was of .50cals in general killing Tiger tanks, now you are coming with exceptional situations and when I say Sherman, I don´t mean Fireflies or any other modified versions, I mean then the version that was most around in standard usage. Always love it when you try and nail someone for a flippant general comment, for certain some one comes along with some exception. If they where always nailed from the back, why where Tiger tanks then so feared? Maybe because they did not always make it to the back of a Tiger?

Ever hear of a guy called Michael Wittmann? Should read what he did with a whole bunch of tanks, which where up against his one tank.

A very good friend of my parents who took part in the battle of the Bulge as a tank driver, did mention how things where when they met Shermans.....and he survived the war. Guess his tank was over modeled and not correctly made. Smash


 
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Originally posted by TinyTim:
Funny thing here is that .50cal in IL-2 can destroy a Tiger.


What are you smoking? Hell will freeze over long before you'll destroy a Tiger with 50cals in IL-2.


I guess it must be pretty cold down there.



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Originally posted by M_Gunz:
I think I smell a screenshot coming!


You sir have a good nose!


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Put enough rounds of any size into any target "here" and they will be destroyed. A good example being the Japanese fishing boats. Though Uber in their DM, it seeming as though they can't be killed with .50cal., they can with enough MG hits.

I'm just glad there are no American Tiger Tanks the Japanese .50 cal round has to take out.......You remember, the reason for the thread?

K2




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I think it is correct that the .50 can kill a Tiger in a setup like that. AP capabilities of the .50 are in the range of 25mm and that's the armor the Tiger has on top and bottom.

I wonder if it's possible with the original game or just with certain hacks.

I'd also would like to know how many hits it took, just a couple or a lot?

Not everything can be destroyed by all calibers here, some objects have minimum caliber requirement, for instance ships. So you can put as many small caliber rounds into a BB as you wish, it won't go down. I think BB require 5" guns at least.
 
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Then the battleships must be modeled wrong!
They should at least sink a CV
Veryhappy


 
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Some truths:

Every thread which mentions the Eastern front but is not related to it in anyway otherwise, turns to a "nazi germany / soviet union / economic situtations back then etc."-thread.

Every thread started by raaaid features a heading with no capital letters followed by one-meter long post from raaaid, containing some creative pictures and even longer ones from a person who understands him (or pretends to). These posts do not include any capital letters either.

Every thread which mentions a weapon with a similar bore diameter as .50 BMG caliber turns to a "you know they used to kill Tiger tanks with .50 cals"-thread.

Big Grin


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Boy, I am darn sick of people bashing these Japanese explosive rounds. Shady Angry Blue Guy

Veryhappy
 
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Originally posted by koivis:
Some truths:

Every thread which mentions the Eastern front but is not related to it in anyway otherwise, turns to a "nazi germany / soviet union / economic situtations back then etc."-thread.

Every thread started by raaaid features a heading with no capital letters followed by one-meter long post from raaaid, containing some creative pictures and even longer ones from a person who understands him (or pretends to). These posts do not include any capital letters either.

Every thread which mentions a weapon with a similar bore diameter as .50 BMG caliber turns to a "you know they used to kill Tiger tanks with .50 cals"-thread.

Big Grin


Hey stop spilling the beans! Veryhappy


 
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Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
Oh wow here we go onto that fairy tail again.
50cal destroying tigers yeah, but the 75mm shell of the Shermans bounced off, how does that fit?


Shermans don't fly. Nor were they all armed with the 75/38. Nor did they all shoot the front hull or turret.
There is record of an M-8 engine-killing a Tiger from under 100 ft directly behind with a 37mm gun.

I wouldn't give credence to a plane killing a buttoned-up Tiger with 50 cals. If that could happen they wouldn't
have bothered with bombs and rockets. Even 20mm AP would be a stretch though those engine vents at the back....


Ah yes first the talk was of .50cals in general killing Tiger tanks, now you are coming with exceptional situations and when I say Sherman, I don´t mean Fireflies or any other modified versions, I mean then the version that was most around in standard usage. Always love it when you try and nail someone for a flippant general comment, for certain some one comes along with some exception. If they where always nailed from the back, why where Tiger tanks then so feared? Maybe because they did not always make it to the back of a Tiger?

Ever hear of a guy called Michael Wittmann? Should read what he did with a whole bunch of tanks, which where up against his one tank.

A very good friend of my parents who took part in the battle of the Bulge as a tank driver, did mention how things where when they met Shermans.....and he survived the war. Guess his tank was over modeled and not correctly made. Smash


See the part in your reply that's bolded? Now go take a look in the mirror and say FLIPPANT COMMENT.

Shermans did not fly and 50 cal carrying planes did not make frontal ground attacks on Tiger tanks.

Michael Wittman ran down a row of parked unmanned British tanks and shot each in turn through the side, is that
the incident you refer to? On many occasions Tigers would kill enemy after enemy from direct front as well.

I can read tank history too and I have since the later 1960's until not too long ago at all. Enough so that I
don't compare aerial attacks from above to frontal attacks attacks from the ground and try comparing the two as
if it's all from the latter position.

It was YOUR FLIPPANT COMMENT I WAS RESPONDING TOO. Note that I added the following or learn to read:
I wouldn't give credence to a plane killing a buttoned-up Tiger with 50 cals.

So Kettle, don't play that characterize the pot game cause you ain't clean at all.
 
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Well you seem to know every anwser to everything.
Stupid people that don´t consult YOU first.
As to YOUR FLIPPANT COMMENT...maybe think again.
90° to the top plate how long do you think a plane is going to dive to hit that area, and also the shells first really do damage at a certain distance too and not endless, so how about thinking Mr. Flippant.
As soon as there is a angel there are very good chances of glancing off.

I have seen that often enough in RL as I had to deal with all kinds of amunition during my time in the military. But maybe what I was trained and applied over many years was also only flippant.

I just love when seemingly amatures come along and tell you about stuff you did professionally.
Great show.



But looking at many of your posts, I guess this must be your motto?



 
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I don't post funny pictures or big banners so you'll just have to imagine or get yourself a sig
with a TROLL PICTURE. Or maybe just call yourself Tagert.
 
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careful Martin, or he'll just put you on ignore list....


 
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Originally posted by koivis:
Some truths:

Every thread which mentions the Eastern front but is not related to it in anyway otherwise, turns to a "nazi germany / soviet union / economic situtations back then etc."-thread.

Every thread started by raaaid features a heading with no capital letters followed by one-meter long post from raaaid, containing some creative pictures and even longer ones from a person who understands him (or pretends to). These posts do not include any capital letters either.

Every thread which mentions a weapon with a similar bore diameter as .50 BMG caliber turns to a "you know they used to kill Tiger tanks with .50 cals"-thread.

Big Grin



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Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
careful Martin, or he'll just put you on ignore list....


Oh I could live with that very well!
I just hate it when someone tries to sell BS as facts, especially on a field where I used to work professionally.

From my point of view he could drown himself in a barrel.

Gunz-head take a look in the mirror. There you will see what you are talking about.

Silly kid.


 
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This seems like a good time to remind everyone that the bar in the FW-190 is not correct.


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Don't forget that Mustang won Teh War.

No matter how much you beat it, that horse just isn't getting up.


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the bar in the FW-190 is not correct.


LOL! (literally)
 
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Originally posted by KraljMatjaz:
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Originally posted by TinyTim:
Funny thing here is that .50cal in IL-2 can destroy a Tiger.


What are you smoking? Hell will freeze over long before you'll destroy a Tiger with 50cals in IL-2.


I guess it must be pretty cold down there.



quote:
Originally posted by M_Gunz:
I think I smell a screenshot coming!


You sir have a good nose!


How... How did you do that??
 
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