My grandfather told me not to tell his name or unit. He gets really mad when we ask him questions about the war. My uncle calls him a staff weenie which i guess isnt very nice. He did teach me how to fly the IL2 game a couple years ago. My idiot brother is Zebra.

My grandfather would not let me play on line until i could land on a carrier. He told me to get my brothers football helmet and put it on to be more like a real pilot. I crashed a lot of times but finally the first time i landed i bounce really high but stopped without crashing. I was real happy but my granfather said I was dead. i said no way. He hit me on the helmet with a frypan and said i had just broken my neck as my head would have hit the top of the canopy and killed me. He said the game isnt real and told me to remember that.

"My granfathers normal saying: remember the ronson lighter (referring to the Sherman tank)"

Overall the sherman was an OK medium tank, the upgunned firefly sherman was on par with other mediums like the PZkpfw IV or T34 and in the desert it was better than the PZkpfw III. It was deadmeat compared to a heavy tank like the Tiger or Panther but you expect that.

Your grandfather has a point though ... you do have to wonder about what sort of idiots approved petrol engines in a tank instead of diesel.

Then Germans did the same thing in the Panther, presumably thinking the better armor would make petrol safe to use but they were just as wrong, panthers cooked as easy as Sherman's

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Originally posted by Xiolablu3:


Left to Right :-

First 5 :- Not sure of the first one, can anyone help? , 15mm MG 151 (15x96), 20mm MG 151/20 (20x82), 20mm Ho-5 (20x94), 20mm Hispano (20x110)

2nd Group of four :- 60" T17 (15.2x114), .50/60 (12.7x114), 20mm M39/61 (20x102), 20mm Mk 11/12 (20x110 USN)

3rd Group of two :- 20mm FM-K 38 drill round (20x139), 20mm HS 820/Oerlikon KAD (20x139)

4th group of two :- 20mm and 23mm Madsen (20x120 and 23x106)


COmpare to Oerlikon family...



Maybe if the Oerlikons on the Ships fired the Oerlikon 'S' round that is shown above, they may be compatible? They look identical to the Hispano round. What exactly were the Oerlikon guns on the US ships?

I think designation of the round used by the US navy was 20x110RB (similar to the Oerlikon S round pictured) but if you compare it with the Hispano 20x110 round (top picture 5th from the left) you'll notice that the Oerlikon round has a rebated rim and the Hispano round is rimless.

Also the position of the shoulder is lower on the Oerlikon round and the shoulder is more sloped.

Theres a better picture on this web page

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/an_introduction_to_collecting_20.htm the two rounds are on the extreme right.

I think it would be extremely dangerous to fire a RB round in a Hispano cannon!

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Originally posted by Xiolablu3:

Left to Right :-

First 5 :- Not sure of the first one, can anyone help? ,

Potentially the 1930s 'Short Solothurn'used in Lb 204 and S18-100 AT rifle


http://www.inert-ord.net/atrkts/50-55-20/index.html

http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_RIFLES2.htm

Well I would be lead to believe that a large volume of .50 cal incendiary rounds fired at lightweight aircraft prone to leaking fuel would be far more efficient in that it is plenty of firepower to take down the desired target. I don't think there would be much to choose from in terms of what a 20mm or .50 cal round would do to a lightweight Japanese aircraft, a critical hit from either would more than likely bring it down, so you might as well choose the weapon that had the larger ammo capacity.