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Im looking for a plane that suits my play style. Something that I can grow into and master fully with alot of practice... but I want to make sure I got the right one. This is where I need some help...
Im generally very good at long range shooting and leading. "sniping" as u may say, I suppose this requires a plane with a "stable platform". Im unsure of this thou. Of course I like the best of everything, manuverability, armor, climb, dive, firepower, etc... but Im not looking for the absolute "best" plane to pilot. This is not my style, instead, something good and that suits me cause ill like it. So... I guess im looking for a plane that accels in these, or as close to this: 1. Firepower - accuracy over large range and very strong 2. Manuverable - good at general hard turning Any help is greatly appreciated, I look foward to dogfighting with you guys in my new plane soon. :-) |
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P-38?
Something decent and fast with nose MG and cannon and good ammo supply. It's hard to long range snipe with horizontal convergence. When people take a plane out to see what it can do they really find what they can do with it. |
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Once you play the game long enough you can fly any plane fairly easily if you know its strengths and weaknesses. Also if you use limited ammo you realize that it's pretty much always best to be around 150 to 250 meters away from your target--anything further and your ammo packs way less of a punch.
The La-7 comes to mind, its regular 2xShVak cannons are ok but tricky to get shots with unless you're close and careful. The one with 3xB20 is way easier to get hits with but has less ammo. Some of the late war Japanese planes are fun--very manueverable but fast and have good weapons. Kind of too easy to fly though. Bf-109 is ok throughout the war but its gun placement is tricky and weaker than stuff like the Fw-190 or anything with two or more cannons. Spitfire is a great all around plane but its weapons are kinda funny--4 x .30 cals and 2 cannons. Basically you pick away with the .30 cals and hope something sets on fire, then if not you move in and squeeze of a quick blast of the cannons. ----------------- Farewell to freedom in the Adriatic and to the days of wild abandon. Check out my BRAND NEW campaign, "The Pirate Menace" Also check out my old Air Pirates campaigns! Air Pirates Part One Air Pirates Part Two |
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The first point reduces the pool to a nose mounted weapon fighters. Propeller driven candidates I'd reccomend: A lot of Russian planes fits the bill I-153P (in its timeframe) Yak-3 (especially 3P with 3 B-20 cannons) La-5/7 (especially 7 with 3 B-20 cannons) Yak-9UT, -T, -K, -P, M with a NS-37 option (if you can learn to shoot the NS-37 and 45 cannons) I-185 (especially the M-71 version) Ki-100 (two 20mm cannon with huge ammosupply - 250rpg - in the nose) Bf-109s P-38s P-39s No one in sane mind ever turns when he has any other option. ~ DKoor |
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I know what you mean by flying style, but you might want to describe it a little better so people can give you some ideas for planes.
Someone who enjoys slower speeds and turn fights might enjoy planes with a tighter turn radius and quick acceleration. I like to fly higher and faster. With that said, i fly planes that will hold energy well, have higher top speeds, and offer a degree of performance in high speed maneuvers and stability. I also gravitate toward zoom climb performance which is very useful in combat. I'll spout off my top two picks i enjoy flying, although they probably aren't considered the best planes in the game, by most people. P-47D: Fast and a strong durable plane Stable in turns, harder to spin. Its Zoom climb performance more than makes up for its relatively slower climb rate. 8 wing mounted 50 cal guns. - - Gives a good spread over long range, and a cannon like punch at convergence. Holds energy well, especially above 3000m, and even better above 6000m F4U-1 A/ C/D Fast and strong durable plane Turns very well, especially with combat flaps Has an effective zoom climb, although not as strong as the P-47s 6 wing mounted 50 cals or 4 20mm Hispanos (F4U-1C) Once this plane gets moving, there isn't much that slows it down. It will hold its speed in turns, and performs well at all altitudes. |
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What about the F2G and the P-47N?
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I have the same favorites as BillSwagger and agree 100% with his descriptions of why. You would also be happy with any of these if you ever wanted to do some ground-pounding.
[The link in my signature is to training missions using the F4U (Corsair) if you want to try the Corsair out.] The F2G and P-47N are not available in this game (not sure about tailor mod though). good hunting to all, =Blindman=  |
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I know that. I was just checking.  |
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Many of us wish the P-47N was available (and the F8Fs and F4U2s too).
good hunting to all, =Blindman= |
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I wish I had a XP-40Q.
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P38L, BF109G10 or Yak3.
The P38 is the hardest of the three to learn well enough to be competitive but once mastered its the most capable. It has some very unique flying characteristics and you need to have an awareness of what energy means to aircombat before you can exploit the advantages the P38 has to offer. The BF109G10 is fast at all altitudes, has automated complex engine controls is surprisingly dynamic (climbs/dives speeds up/slows down etc.) and has a centerline mounted 30mm cannon. The 109 is the easiest of the three to fly and develop confidence in. The Yak is the best pure dogfighter of the three. Anything it cant out turn it can out run. It can match a well flown spitfire move for move then turn around and do the same with an FW190. Its achilles heel is it is a low/med alt aircraft. It starts wheezing at 6000 meters and is worthless by 8000. Those are my recomendations, goodluck finding a ride. |
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Oh, your looking for a new plane, well.....I'd recomend you try the A6M or P-63.
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The P47D27_Late is close enough to the N for all intents and purposes in the context of IL2. If you cant do it in the D27_Late having the N available isnt going to make a difference. |
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I dont even care about the P-47.
Not even the P-51!  |
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The answer to this partially depends if you are talking offline or online.
Flying axis I prefer the g6as and, believe it or not, the 190a8 with inwing 108's. Allied ... always been a p38 fan. _________________________________ Some random "stuff" : WTE (Australasian IL2 Squadron): http://www.wte-anga.com/ RAF 3 Sdn '38 and 72 Sqdn: http://tinyurl.com/3RAF1938 http://tinyurl.com/72sqdn N5519 Charity 1939: http://tinyurl.com/n5519 |
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give the P-39D-2 (with standart gun, thats a 20mm canon in game) and for sure the P-63C a try.
..................................... and before you have to ask: Shift + F1 will center the sight. Ctrl + D will remove the lenscap F4F and I-16 has manual landing gear only |
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Given what you said , i'd say quite a few planes would fit the bill . The P-40 is manoeuvrable at low/medium speed , good firepower , can snipe with it (well depends convergence , i cant snipe with it cause i use 130meters , but some people do ) , same with the La-5 , quite agile down low , exellent roll rate , decent speed , two 20mm cannons with high velocity (straight trajectory good for long distance shots) . Then there are the Messerschmitts , Airacobras and Yakovlevs fighters , also manoeuvrable excep at high speeds , they have a cannon in the nose (useful for "sniping" ) , Airacobra is the hardest to fly but rewarding . Personally , if you are relatively new to the sim , i would advise you to start with the P-40 , it's a very good plane to learn IMHO , it's a very stable gun platform with an armament useful for deflection shooting (50.cal ) which is good for gunnery practice , P-40 has a good visibility from the cockpit , it's relatively agile , dives well , has good range and you can even carry a 1000lb bomb with it for attacking ships or other stuffs . It's not an uber plane (poor climb , vulnerable engine especially in head ons , mediocre acceleraton etc..) so you would be encouraged to set up some tactics (or use teamwork) and work on SA as well as keeping your energy and initiative |
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You need to fly Yak-9K/T.
Those are the best planes at least according to your preferences. P-39 may be your second choice. P-38 third. Those Yaks have nose cannon that kills everything with 1 shot plus they can turn with everything monoplane in ETO. Plus is you have the Yak family available thorough the war so you can practice on variants. Downside; they are slow. P-39 excellent aircraft for its timeframe, killer nose cannon. P-38 good nose weapon setup, you may snipe easily. If you want to fly axis, then Bf-109 is pretty much all that meets your criteria, although you will need to turn with bf-109 vertically more than horizontally. |
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Or the P-400, its my favorite P-39 varient.
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P-39's are nice , but IMHO not so easy to start flying the sim for a begginner for 3 reasons : spinning tendency , difficult gunnery (for deflection with 37mm) , agile only at certain speeds (not at very low speed , not at high speed )
Personally , when i started flyig this sim , i started with the Focke Wulf 190 which probably wasn't the most sensible choice in term of difficulty , but at that time (it was before AEP , 190 were not as good as now ) there were no Spits , Zeroes etc.. , and i just loved that plane , so it wasn't noob friendly at first , but it helped me learn what "not to do" with heavier/powerful planes frm the start . Now we have more choice of planes , so i guess that it's all a question of personal preference although IMHO , there are some planes more difficult than others when you start flying this sim , i mean P-47 thunderbolt is an excellent fighter when used the right way but i wouldn't advise someone who had the game recently to start with this plane cause it require a bit of experience to fly it well , perhaps i'm wrong though |
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