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Nope sorry, and you also have to explain why it has those markings.
 
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A Swiss Me-110 used as an adhoc air to ground radar?

Or is it impounded?

sorry bed time getting an earfull Roll Eyes


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Well I was hoping for a slightly fuller and exact explanation, but I suppose it's close enough, back to you Mr J.

"The photo shows Messerschmitt Bf 110 G-4 W.Nr. 5545 unit code 2Z+OP at the Duebendorf airfield in Switzerland during radar tests. Some time earlier, on March 15-16, 1944 Oberfeldwebel Helmut Treynogga and radio-operator Heinz Schwarz from 6./NJG6 departed from Echterdingen on board of Bf 110 G-4 2Z+OP. Their mission was to intercept an RAF bomber formation headed for Munich. The crew got lost and landed in Duebendorf, Switzerland and was taken into custody. The Bf 110 remained in Switzerland. However, the crew was returned to Germany about 5 weeks later. The Swiss tested the radar of the Bf 110 by pointing the Bf 110 upwards. Then a group of Swiss fighter planes flew overhead."
 
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What was the source for that image and text please Dance?
 
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I knew the Swiss had Me109s

On 28 April 1944 the pilot of a German Me 110 G-4 nightfighter of NJG 5 (C9+EN) landed in Duebendorf/ Switzerland after having been caught and tracked by anti-aircraft searchlights.

The aircraft was undamaged and equipped with the latest and highly classified

FuG 220 'Lichtenstein' SN-2 radar. The Germans feared Allied intelligence operations and demanded the immediate return of this aircraft. The Swiss refused, which brought them to the edge of a military confrontation with the 'Third Reich'.

In the end the two countries agreed on a secret deal: The Swiss Army would blow up the Me 110 under German supervision on 18 May 1944 and Messerschmitt would sell twelve brand new Me 109 G-6 to the Swiss immediately after.

Another Me110?


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A different 110, the two of them are mentioned in this paper about the radar involved,

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2942...uG-220-aiborne-radar

the one I pictured is at the top of the page along with some of the story (though a different picture, taken just after it landed in Switzerland and not the one I used).

It has slightly different antenna to the one you referred to, which is also pictured.
 
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In answer to the question, B-25?

Edit: not a B-25, it's an A-26.
 
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Thumbs Up A-26 Invader somewhere in England 1944


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Thanks. What's this?

 
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Looks like a Northrop JB-1, which was ment to be a missile utilizing a flying wing concept. The version on the picture however seems to be a piloted glider for testing.


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Yep, it's a piloted 'Bat' glider Thumbs Up

"In 1944, Northrop test pilot Harry Crosby made the initial glider flights out of Muroc Dry Lake, using airplane tows to get airborne. Following the successful glider flights, the second model JB-1A was equipped with a pair of General Electric Type B1 turbojet engines replacing the pilot."
 
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Thanks Dance.

I.D.


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Ki-27?


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quote:
Originally posted by Dance:
http://battlegroundrelics.com/...-4-2zop-nightfighter

There you go Waldo.


Gracias, I found it in rec.aviation.military and then they mention the battlegroundrelics.com site as well.

Expedient and wise testing method. Flying it could have jeopardized the machine. The British never tested their prizes like this. Clever.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
Ki-27?


Not a Ki-27. It had retractable landing gear.


No one in sane mind ever turns when he has any other option.
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Although it looks unlike any I'm familiar with, due to the 'retactable undercarriage' remark I'll take a guess with Ki-43.
 
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Not an Oscar either. Not Japanese.

EDIT: Holy Cow, I screwed it up. No, it didn't have retractable landing gear, the undercarriage was fixed. Sorry about that . An evolution of this aircraft, very similar in appearance and designation, however did indeed have a retractable landing gear.


No one in sane mind ever turns when he has any other option.
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Another hint then: It's a biplane. Couple this with the previous hint, and you have an answer.


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Polikarpov I-15?
 
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