Yes, I'd definitely buy one IF:

- it uses Hall-effect sensors wherever possible (not just for X and Y axis like in the X52). I'm sick of Pots spiking and wearing out.
- it's sturdy/ made of heavy duty material (metal ?)
- it looks like from this world and not from outer space.
- it does not wobble like the X52/X52Pro
- it finally had an adjustable centering spring! (for non FFB use)

I own the regular X52 and now the Pro version. On the X52 the two rotaries in the throttle are already worn out (after only three months!) and suffer from heavy spiking and the throttle and the slider axis don't reach 100% anymore. Also the stick itself feels very wobbly around the deadzone.

Now I bought myself a X52Pro and I'm not very happy with it, too. The stick wobbles even more in center position, the throttle feels somehow fragile and I dare to bet that Saitek used the same crappy pots in the rotaries/trottle/slider again.

PLEASE Saitek, get rid of the pot technology from the stoneage! Hall-effect sensors are cheaper than quality pots, contact free and more precise and require no additional electronics.

With these conditions met, I'd be willing to spend quite some money on a quality product that will last MANY years.

Therion_Prime
- a not very satisfied Saitek customer

I recently bought the Saitek Evo Force BECAUSE I found no X52 with ffb. The Evo is a good stick, but I'd prefer by far to have a separate throttle with a separate trimming system. It would be nice to have the ffb on the rudder pedals and on the throttle as well, btw. Make it ambidextrous, and you've got the best affordable stick on the market.
Didn't know about the buttkicker system, but i'm interested in. Do you really feel your engine better with it?

I like Saitek, I've got a Cyborg 3D Gold and an old Saitek gamepad.
I want an FFB stick and I want a HOTAS.
So Saitek, what are you waiting for?

I have unstickied this thread..... so if you havent hit it..

I just built myself a new system(vista XP dual boot), and it does not have an gameport option, which all my other motherboards did. The point is I have been using an X45/MS FFB Pro combo for ever!!! I now only have the X45 and I can not stand it, throttle great, stick is awfull. I really need a FFB stick.

People Are Paying 120 to 350 dollars for USED MS FFB Sticks!!!!

Please Saitek make a copy of the MS FFB sticks, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A good hotas would be tits.

I'd give it a go at once. I have my X52 for over a year now and hardly have any age problems. Only the cables tend to be sensitive. My old Microsoft FFB2 made it to the company as secondary joystick (I love FFB, but I love all the mapable buttons on the X52 even more).

If there was a quality Saitek FFB HOTAS system under 200 bucks, a dream came true.

count me in! love the saitek stuff! own a X45 that has the primaly fire button gone after2 years, a cyborg evo that was lenghtened for working between the legs and it worked for 2 years even if this stick was buyed as second hand on ebay(now the potos are out of calibration,center is gone, so i toke the fire button for the X45 ) and the rudder pedals that are so much better than the CH(just because you can put the stick between your legs) and was praparing to buy a cyborg evo force for again...putting it between my legs! (flyng like that is so much more immersive)and a X36f(usb) ready to be modded for helicopters

So if Saitek makes a FFB hotas and there will be a possibility to put the stick between the legs,yes!,that looks also more like a plane stick instead of a T-fighter stick and without this stupid central spring(or something simmilar but where you can control the sensibity of the spring)and a FFB rudder afterwards (otherwise too much expensive at once), yes, i'll buy it without hesitation.

9 to 1 in favour. Bump

I use an original ms sidewinder ffb (gameport version), with an x-45, ch pro pedals, and an original TIR.

I fly with ffb unticked, all I feel in flight is forces on the control surfaces. The faster I fly, the stronger the forces.

I've been entertaining the thought of purchasing all of the above from ebay, as a backup. I would definitely be intrested.
Good work Bear, and thanks. I appreciate your time, effort, and expertise.

sorry if its been mentioned already, i ahvent read the thread

but if they reverse engineer the MSPP2FF, IM THERE!

I'll add this. I would be interested in buying the stick if they remove the silly hand guard plastic.

Also, I prefer distinct axis on the stick a la ch fighterstick. The saitek gimbal system I find annoying. The lack of detectable centering throws me off. I guess they could address that with force feedback.

i like saitek. i'd by an X-52 but they wont remove that bar from across the front. damn it, I HAVE BIG F*CKING HANDS! it's un comfortable for me. and the x-52/45 are the only afforadable otins for a hotas set up.
but with FBB i would buy one regardless.

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Originally posted by fuzzychickens:
I'll add this. I would be interested in buying the stick if they remove the silly hand guard plastic.

Also, I prefer distinct axis on the stick a la ch fighterstick. The saitek gimbal system I find annoying. The lack of detectable centering throws me off. I guess they could address that with force feedback.

yup see i'm not the only one. HANDGUARD HAS TO GO DAMN IT>

I would love to see FFB Hotas for all the reasons already mentioned. It would be a must buy upgrade for me if Saitek were to come out with a Hotas setup like the X-52 in FFB. Also if it could some way be implemented into the pedals as well that would be terrific. Heres to a healthy future for our beloved hobby! S!

bump, let's vote people!

I now use both the X-52 throttle with the Pro pedals - the X-52 stick didn't even come out of the box.
If the 2 sets of FFB2 I now have both decide to pass away, I would absolutely kill to get a Saitek FFB - I can't even think about flying without FFB.

(YES!)

I've never tried FFB, but I currently have the full CH USB HOTAS set-up. What I desire in a simulation is immersion, which from the user interface standpoint means:

1) Not having to poke at a keyboard,
2) Life-like controls,
3) Enveloping sound,
4) Field-of-view-filling visuals.

In my quest for the fullest experience, a well thought out FFB HOTAS kit would be a must-have! And if it was to at least a certain extent modular (simpit integration, with optional switch/rotary panels), so much the better!

--Lurch--

I'd rather have a more professional stick with better gimbals, with a longer stick length (for use OFF the desktop).. I get tired of making my own sticks and gutting the saitek stuff for the parts!

I have a X52 and love it...

I'm going to buy a X52-Pro when I completly rebuild my rig for BOB later this year...

If Seitek markets a FFB HOTAS I'm buying one as soom as it hits the shelves...

Yep I would love to have developpers model the following force feedback effects :

- Dynamic forces on the control surfaces during flyght... (stick and rudder pedals)
- Gun shake
- Ordinance drop
- Atmosphiric effects

BUT I would like to be able to assigh them to different controller like we can do in the conf.ini file with multiple sticks and rudder pedals...

So we could have flight dynamic forces influencing the stick... a say gun shake, ordinance drop and atmospheric effects influence a rumble pad (on steroids) under our seat..... kind of a high end "buttkicker" but driven by FFB and not sound...

Regards