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Any takers?

"Memphis Belle"?



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wow..nobody answered?

well..just to be a sport even though I am not a "bomber guy"...

91st Bomb Group`?





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wow..nobody answered?

well..just to be a sport even though I am not a "bomber guy"...

91st Bomb Group`?


I was a bit surprised at that F19. and I couldn't let the thread, slide off the page Smile

Of course you are correct.

I found the Tidbit in "Strangers in a strange land Vol 1" by Hans-Heiri Stapfer and also mentioned at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/91st_Bomb_Group

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I thought it was "The Bloody 100th [BG]"!


 
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What was the biggest difference between Japanese landing procedures on carriers, compared to American or British carriers?





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They did not use a "landing signal officer" (LSO) to control the landing and to potentially abort the landing if he deemed it unsafe. They relied on deck-edge lights to help the pilots land, and the landing was entirely under the control of the pilot.


 
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correct...

an excerpt from what I read:

One of the most curious things about Japanese carrier ops is the
matter of Landing Signal Officers. For the most part, they had none.
There was, though, a flagman called hikochô on the bridge who waved
a red flag indicating a fouled deck to the approaching aircraft to signal
a waveoff. The pilot established his own lineup and glide slope by
means of an arrangement of red and green (some reports say blue
instead of green) lights arranged in groups of two on either side of the
flight deck

The apparatus, called chakkan shidoto (literally, landing guidance
light), was invented at the Kasumigaura Naval Station in 1932 as a
night landing aid. It was fitted on Japan's first carrier, Hosho, in 1933
and. after being proved on Hosho, adapted to the other carriers. It was
used both day and night from about 1934 onward.

The red and green lights were one kilowatt, variable in intensity, and
each had a refractory mirror to produce a relatively narrow cone of
light. The red light was mounted 10 to 15 meters (approximately 30 to
45 feet) aft of the green light. It could be raised or lowered to adjust the
separation between the two to vary the glide slope between four and six
degrees, depending on the type of aircraft in the landing pattern.

The angle was usually 5.5 degrees for fighters and 5 degrees for attack
aircraft.
As the pilot rolled in astern of the carrier with wheels, flaps and hook
down while maintaining his own interval, he adjusted his flight path
until he had both pairs of lights in sight. Losing Sight Of one or the
other pair of lights indicated that the pilot was right or left of the ideal
lineup, and called for a correction to regain the errant pair of lights and
land on centerline.

The pilot adjusted his approach path so that the green light was
superimposed immediately over the red. If he could see only the red
light, the aircraft was below the desired glide slope. If the red light was
on top of the green, he was dangerously below glide slope. Conversely,
if the green light was far above the red, he was too high on glide slope.

Due to the offset from the centerline and the narrowness of the cone
of light, the pilot would lose sight of the landing aids somewhere prior
to touchdown. Presumably, if he had kept the lights lined up properly
just before he lost sight of the lights while close to the deck, he would
be in the ideal “cut” position. From here, as with his U.S. counterpart,
he would then make final lineup corrections and land.
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Source: http://www.ussessexcv9.org/pdfs/Japanese%20Carrier%20Operations.pdf





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Name the last successful coordinated attack on a US aircraft carrier by Japanese dive bombers and torpedo planes in the Pacific War.


 
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I thought it was "The Bloody 100th [BG]"!


The 100BG (177 mia) was 3rd, behind the 96 BG (189 mia).

The 100 BG tended to loose a/c in large batches.



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Thanks for the clarification, LL!


 
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Name the last successful coordinated attack on a US aircraft carrier by Japanese dive bombers and torpedo planes in the Pacific War.


hmm not sure but does Kamikaze attacks count?





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No. Should be a piece of cake.


 
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I can only think of Bunker Hill... even though it was indeed kamikazes involved





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Battle of Santa Cruz?



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Eastern Solomons?


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Burning hot JSG72, name the ship which received the attack and the attackers.


 
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Hornet, Vals, Kates. Enterprise was also attacked by Vals and Kate, The Vals hit, the Kates either missed or their torp. were duds.


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100% For HORNET which received the first, last, and only coordinated attack with Japanese dive bombers and torpedo planes (D3A1s and B5N2s) in the Second World War. The aircraft were from SHOKAKU and ZUIKAKU. They wrecked HORNET which was later scuttled. The attacks on ENTERPRISE in the same battle were not coordinated.


 
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Here's another Pacific War question. (Not my greatest known subject).So bear with me as my question is from a single source.

1) In the battle of the Philipines. On the 18/19 June 1944. What extraordinary feat did a B6N pilot perform?

2)And what, caused the launch of TG.58.1s aircraft?



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Whoops, Sillius_Sodus answered the question by naming the carrier, JSG72.


 
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