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Hello communist sympathizers and patriot Axis bretheren. I have a message to share with you all.

I am here to shut down the spread of soviet and democrat (yes, that means you pony drivers) propoganda dominating this game.

I have created a video of power to share with my Axis bretheren that will teach the proper skills of boom and zoom fighting.

I know many of you have heard people talk on the forums about how you just "need to use the verticle!" yet have absolutely no idea wtf they are talking about.

In 5 minutes, this video will highlight just about every skill you'll need to hammer communism back into the stoneage where it belongs.

Watch, comment, and be amazed.

This video was shot in WWIIOL but because I'm such a strident anti-communist I have decided to share it with you all because we must stamp out pinkos no matter where they are found.

Be sure to click the "Watch In High Quality" link so you can see what I'm doing once you bring up the video page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnUquDcNt-8


S!

See you on the front.
 
Posts: 5 | Registered: Thu May 15 2008Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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In combat of any traditional sense, those tactics will get you killed. You lose all of your energy at the top of that climb and have no wingman to back you up. Not a good idea.

There is no propaganda driving this game, it's rather simple -

Learn your plane
Learn your enemy's plane
Practice your gunnery
Always maximize E

1 vs. 1 combat is very unlikely in the IL2 skies unless you set it up specifically, and the AI is smart enough to try to maintain its own advantage.

The best advice is not to get into a dogfight at all.




"So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you..."
-Gandalf
 
Posts: 4164 | Location: PA/NJ, USA | Registered: Wed May 28 2003Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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By your sig I can tell you are someone who cares about Axis pilots and their flying skills.

Let us agree to disagree that my video provides quality BnZ techniques and let us also agree that you support Stalin.
 
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Like flying for Fascism is any better... Roll Eyes


"War is like a big sh*t sandwich, and we all have to take a bite of it."
 
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"now obviously this is a spit, so a few 20mm to the cockpit is unfortunately not enough to kill it"

Veryhappy

things are tough all over, FB no diff
 
Posts: 2850 | Registered: Thu September 09 2004Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Nioce video, but I disagree with some of your points , unless you are just joking (I guess you must be)

I actually tried WW2 online a couple of weeks ago, I tried both sides and found that the Allies guns seem weak compared to the Axis guns. Many many times while flying Axis I found one shot with a 20mm cannon was enough to kill an Allied fighter, but rarely could they do the same to me.

When flying Allied I got frustrated at the sudden black screen from one what was seemingly one single hit (no sound but screen goes black). Maybe it was just bad luck on ALlied and good luck on Axis, but that was what happened.

On the other hand, the Allied fighters are a bit easier to handle than the Axis fighters, they turn better, so I guess it balances things up a bit.

I enjoyed playing WW2OL for a change, but the flight models seem really simple and the guns in particular feel really toy like.

Good fun, but I wasnt tempted to sign up.


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"Over Dieppe, the wing was immediately bounced by a hundred FW 190s and a few Me 109s. I heard Johnson effing and blinding as he broke 610 into a fierce attack. I was hard at it dodging 190s, but I found time to speak sharply to Johnson about his foul language." - WingCo Jaime Jameson 12 Group Spitfire

 
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I'm supprised the great Mozus does not recognize one of his own disciples Big Grin


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--Garrison Keillor.
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Posts: 478 | Registered: Fri April 14 2006Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Great vid for demonstrating the principle. Much better than trying to explain using words! Thanks.

A few points - Try doing that in IL2's 109... At 450+ the stick is almost welded in place, making steep diving attacks reliant on a lack of enemy maneuvering.

Secondly, be sure to look around at the top of EVERY climb. I've caught many BnZ'ers, stalled at the top of their climbs. It's beautiful when it happens.


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Posts: 71 | Registered: Sun December 04 2005Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Never knew spit pilots were communists! Surprised

Anyway, good video. Still, versus AI, wasn't it? Or the spit pilot was inexperienced. If he was, he'd be climbing, like you, in his own direction, and not turning after you after your first pass. You also seem to have started with significant altitude advantage. You can BnZ any plane with any other plane when you have enough initial altitude advantage (in other words: you could do exactly the same when flying spit versus the 109). It's fighting in vertical and prevailing in doing so from equal initial E state that's worth learning.


"In short, the Spitfire MkIX was the best fighting machine of its day. Its great tactical advantage
was that, apart from its longer nose and more numerous exhaust stacks, it looked exactly like the
inferior Spitfire MkV, and in the air the Germans would not know the difference - until we hit them."
~ Wg Cdr J E 'Johnnie' Johnson
 
Posts: 218 | Registered: Thu December 06 2007Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Because flying a Russian plane automatically makes someone communist, eh?


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Even more, flying any allied plane automatically forbids you to use B'n'Z, it's a well known fact in the combat flight-sim community, only axis-flyers are able to do it. Roll Eyes

This message has been edited. Last edited by: BGs_Ricky,
 
Posts: 208 | Registered: Thu October 20 2005Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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quote:
Originally posted by wound:
Watch, comment, and be amazed.
No need to watch the clip to be amazed. Smile I'm amazed at your political charge in your message. Also, FYI, I asked your thread to be locked. This is a flight sim forum, your political statements don't belong here.
 
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Somebody get a pin; I wanna hear what it sounds like when this guys massive head gets popped.


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Aircraft which strafe or bomb your positions should be regarded with suspicion, if not deep mistrust. Aircraft which bomb and strafe your position and wear a red circle should certainly be regarded with deep mistrust. In fact, the deeper the better. A six-foot-deep slit trench is an ideal place from which to mistrust them...

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Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Somebody get a pin; I wanna hear what it sounds like when this guys massive head gets popped.


Tongue Veryhappy


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"Over Dieppe, the wing was immediately bounced by a hundred FW 190s and a few Me 109s. I heard Johnson effing and blinding as he broke 610 into a fierce attack. I was hard at it dodging 190s, but I found time to speak sharply to Johnson about his foul language." - WingCo Jaime Jameson 12 Group Spitfire

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wound:
Hello communist sympathizers and patriot Axis bretheren. I have a message to share with you all.

I am here to shut down the spread of soviet and democrat (yes, that means you pony drivers) propoganda dominating this game.

I have created a video of power to share with my Axis bretheren that will teach the proper skills of boom and zoom fighting.

I know many of you have heard people talk on the forums about how you just "need to use the verticle!" yet have absolutely no idea wtf they are talking about.

In 5 minutes, this video will highlight just about every skill you'll need to hammer communism back into the stoneage where it belongs.

Watch, comment, and be amazed.


Wound - I don't know if you're trolling or not, but that sort of childish political rhetoric has no place here. You sound like a dickhead with the mentality of a 12 year-old, or a typical neo-nazi - which amounts to the same thing!

As for your video, it's quite good, but post another one of you doing the same, online, on a full-switch 1946 server then we might be more impressed...

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Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
"now obviously this is a spit, so a few 20mm to the cockpit is unfortunately not enough to kill it"


Blink
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wound:
Hello communist sympathizers and patriot Axis bretheren. I have a message to share with you all.
...

Watch, comment, and be amazed.
...

See you on the front.


You nice?


 
Posts: 1917 | Registered: Sat February 26 2005Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I see lots of allied in here crying.

Good.

That's telling me I did a good job.

For you Axis fighters, learn from the best.

I have thousands of air to air kills and the techniques I demonstrate in the video are right out of Shaw's Fighter Combat, 1 v 1 disimilar aircraft. Watch what I do and you'll be on track to getting the basics of energy fighting quickly.
 
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I wish I never looked in here.
 
Posts: 4902 | Registered: Fri December 12 2003Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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quote:
Originally posted by wound:
Watch what I do and you'll be on track to getting the basics of energy fighting quickly.


Would you be so kind to explain us the difference between boom and zoom and energy fighting? Because you are using both terms all over the place as if it would be the same thing.


"In short, the Spitfire MkIX was the best fighting machine of its day. Its great tactical advantage
was that, apart from its longer nose and more numerous exhaust stacks, it looked exactly like the
inferior Spitfire MkV, and in the air the Germans would not know the difference - until we hit them."
~ Wg Cdr J E 'Johnnie' Johnson
 
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Watch what I do and you'll be on track to getting the basics of energy fighting quickly.

Do you have anything on top of the basics?

You seems so proud of your simple clip, is it because you have nothing else to be proud of?

Makes me wonder that you know nothing about advanced topics, like 2vs 2, teamwork, comms, navigation, objective-oriented missions etc.

And you never heard of allied P-47s or P-51s attacking Bf-109s with height advantage Wink

If all this agressive tone is to gather attention for your mediocre flying skills, it won't last, be sure.

Finally, when you turn with vapour trails, you are bleeding energy. Maybe the flight model in WWIIOL can do away with this, but such hard pull-ups would slow you down and get you killed on a realistic IL-2 server. It's the wrong training clip for this sim.
 
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