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I love the game so much. Terrorist hunt, multiplayer, and the campaign. This game deserves "the best shooter ever." But there is one major thing: the graphic looks horrible.
This is not the devs' faults. They used a crabby engine so-called "amazing unreal engine."

Please, Please, use different engine next time. It just hurts my heart so bad that such a great game has such a terrible graphic. You guys have great gameplay and great ideas. Please try another engine to make it look better.

What do you guys think?
 
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Originally posted by Bludeous_W:
This game deserves "the best shooter ever."

Play Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield.
 
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no vegas 2 gameplay is better
 
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Originally posted by Bludeous_W:
no vegas 2 gameplay is better


Better?

You mean magically seeing around obstacles, health magically regenerating, grenades that get thrown with your third arm, and lack of going prone or having a planning phase equates to better gameplay?

I don't think so.


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Originally posted by Bludeous_W:
no vegas 2 gameplay is better


Better?

You mean magically seeing around obstacles, health magically regenerating, grenades that get thrown with your third arm, and lack of going prone or having a planning phase equates to better gameplay?

I don't think so.


Raven shield is more realistic? auto aim is not realistic and the AI is dumb. Your teammates are so useless. Graphic looks out-of-date. Even though the customization is better but that game is old.
 
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Vegas has assisted aim.
 
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Vegas has assisted aim.


and raven shield is way more than that
 
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Only if you turn it on.

Also, it's not the engine that's the problem. UE3 is quite good looking.(Look at Gears/2 and UT3)

The problem is that the devs didn't know how to properly use UE3.


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This game doesnt look horrible,thats just your opinion.The Unreal engine is one of the best out there and is used to make some of the most popular games.I dont know why you think its bad.Its not the best looking game but its far from horrible.You put way too much emphasis on graphics, any real gamer will overlook them if theres good gameplay.You should be more worried about the next game being buggy with no support,not the looks.
 
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Don't you understand. Just because they used unreal engine, so the game has so many bugs. Unreal engine sucks and it is not the best out there. People use it a lot just simply because it is easy for development (it is easy but buggy). If you don't think the game looks horrible then you need a glasses.

Low texture mapping, low model texture, low shadow quality. There are a lot of good looking and less-bug problem engines on the market: cry-engine, call of duty engine,.............

If you are worried about bugs. You should be worried about unreal engine.
 
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The game isnt buggy because of the engine, its so buggy because of the people using it.There are tons of games using Unreal that are fine.To simply come on a website and request an engine change tells me you dont understand much of anything.
 
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Maybe you are the one who does not understand much of anything. Unreal engine is easy to use and hard to keep the bugs at bay. Games that used unreal engine are not usually popular and people just often ignore the bugs they have (of course there are popular games that use unreal engine). I am not asking to do something impossible. I am pretty sure other engines are less buggy and less crabby looking than unreal. Or perhaps epic plays a dirty trick on ubisoft.

Epic even got crabs on their own engine. Gears of war 2 is just full of glitches, lags, and bugs. Oh wait, is epic not the owner of the ultimate unreal engine? Hmmmmmmmm
 
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Im sure you know this from your extensive use with this particular engine and thats what leads you to believe its the engine thats to blame and not the people using it.Every engine has problems but the problems in R6 were very fixable with patches.Ubisoft just doesnt support their games long enough to get anything accomplished.They rushed RSV2 for a quick buck, thats why its still a buggy lag fest and we are left with $60 DLC made from recycled maps and guns that should of been in RSV1.Its rediculous for you to believe they would even consider your suggestion.Trying to get them to listen or atleast interact with the community to help better the next game is one thing but some random person with no knowledge on the subject asking for an engine change is just rediculous.The fact that you actually believe they would listen makes it even worse.Its been years since anyone from this team has even said anything on these forums.They unfortunately dont give a damn about R6 fans and everyone knows it.
 
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Ok. well, I actually did not know people hate this team and its games that much. Let me ask you a question. if they suddently released a new rainbow six game (which you didn't know if it were buggy or not), would you go buy it?
 
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Its not entirely the teams fault for the way most of the community feels or the direction R6 has went in,there are a lot of factors that contribute to that.Its the things they could of done and didnt that have made a lot of the R6 community sour.They have put no effort whatsoever into relations with their fanbase. RSV2 as well as its "DLC" are prime examples of how much they really dont care to put in work on R6.Almost everything in RSV2 is reused.All but maybe 2 of its maps are from previous R6 games and with the exception of a few we are getting the same guns and armor as before.The few new guns and armor we got more then likely were meant for RSV1 and never got put in.
Most people dont hate them theyre just frustrated with the way the game has been handled.To answer your question,no I wouldn't.With the price of games these day I like to know what I'm buying. With their track record it would undoubtedly be buggy and the support would discontinue a couple weeks after release.We can still hope for change.
 
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I'm not trying to be an ***.I'm just letting you know how it is around here. Dont expect anything.
 
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this problem is the same as any where else. Gears of war 2 is an example. Epic is trying to fix minor things in the game but they never bother to get rid of the major mistakes which have ****ed many people off. However, to be honest, RSV2 has less problems than gears 2.

You may be right, Devs rarely admit their mistakes and only fix things in silence. The main problem is when a game is out, people all carelessly buy it, so when they get the money, why should they care for your comfort?

If a miraculous thing happend like nobody is gonna buy the next game, probably, they would try to do better, would they not!
 
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All we can do is stick around and hope that someday these things will change.
 
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All we can do is stick around and hope that someday these things will change.


HAHA keep hoping. The only way to change it is one of us or all of us who understand these problems have to become game designers. And I am going to a game design school to make it happen. Just wait, one day, these devs will realize how pathetic they were when compared to my products. I will make them change the way the make their games.
 
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All we can do is stick around and hope that someday these things will change.


HAHA keep hoping. The only way to change it is one of us or all of us who understand these problems have to become game designers. And I am going to a game design school to make it happen. Just wait, one day, these devs will realize how pathetic they were when compared to my products. I will make them change the way the make their games.


LOL you are going to school to study game design with this much of an arrogant attitude?

good luck getting past your first year, let alone ANYWHERE in this industry with a self-absorbed ego like this.

always remember, actions speak louder than words.

if you think you are better, SHOW IT, dont say it. show your work on your flawless engine design thats gonna shut everyone up. dont talk about it


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