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AntiPersonnel your very tiring and make very many mute points
please point out where i said "noobs" in this thread (other then this new post) if you can't point out said stuff in this thread you are going off-topic just to flame me and if your saying wanting cover back is whineing/not accepting change/whatever then so is the many people who don't like the random team respawn.. as they are doing the same thing.. voicing out for something that was "nerfed" AFTER the fact of the games release when it was fine as is do to some people crying about it and i do agree that the "flying cam" is not realistic real world sense BUT it is as best you can get in todays "games" cause in real life if they had time to lean they had time "snake cam" and remember in such teams the safest way if as fast takes the priority in being used (do too sucky codeing the snake cam in vegas is stupidity slow.. yet thank goodness is not as bad as SWAT 4) and to neilthecellist its called thermal vision to see though the door/walls or a heart beat sensor BUT.. we are not talking about doors are we? we are talking about cover and about how people SHOULD NOT need to expose themselves to fire or expose something an enemy could "see" peeking out form the corner in order to see around it and that that something should not take (enter stupidity long time) to do |
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Okay in this video it is a Real SAS team doing real cornering I do not see any Mirrors being pulled out or optiwands being used.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=72rq6dyV4OY&feature=related Oh and By and by Anti, Great post as always love the way you come up with things and I want an action figure!  |
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ok.. if thats SaS training.. i love some things about it #1 i love how in the video they stand/walk on the stairs as if they don't have a care in the world #2 i love how they are yelling out orders instead of whispering #3 i love how the video is supposedly an assault team when "Rainbow" is a slower sneaky "Infiltration" team was that video suppose to be a joke? and other then the "stacking" they were not using cover that corresponds to the type of cover we are talking about in this thread |
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They should just use Vietcong, Medal of Honor Airborne and/or Medal of Honor Vangaurd's style of lean/peek controlled shooting.
Nothing fancy or complicated and gives player 100% analog control of the lean/peek. __________________________ |
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First off what movie did you see that gives you any real insight to how a true Tactical team work in the first place? #1 What you don't know is that every man has a angle covered to protect the team as they move up the stairs and if you run up the stairs you will more then likely to get shot by running into someone or get in your teams line of fire. It is training and some things will you do different then in a live combat mission. The saying "slow is smooth and smooth is fast", applys to all types of combat training. #2 First off any combat vet knows when you begin to fire or enter a build the enemy knows your there with the first kick or blow to the door so there is no need to be quiet. (this is not the movies or your favorite tv show.) #3 There is a time and place to be a slow & sneaky as a "Infiltration" team and their is a time when you must be Fast moving and Loud. The SAS are the worlds FIRST anti- terror unit and if Rainbow was a real unit they would have been trained by the SAS. Next time before you open your mouth to speak about your armchair commando experiences, just be aware there are people here who have worked with SF teams and in Combat units who know what their talking about and you certainly do not. This message has been edited. Last edited by: zack991,  --- "Don't build your community around a game, build your game around a community" www.blackfootstudios.com |
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You stand and walk because like what anti said earlier in this topic your aim is truer when moving slowly and they also step cautiously because you know know on what the tangos are doing so walking slowly give s you a better shot without going sporadic. The yelling at the end? have you ever wore a gas mask? you have to speak louder to get your words out or all its sounds like is *muffle muffle* you have to remember to Terrorists tend to be frantic and don't hear allot there is also allot of things going on inside that room they could be talking not paying attention etc etc plus the mics in the camera are picking up the standby order. Rainbow team is not a ninja team they are a Counter terrorist team just like the SAS except rainbow is more geared toward s CT then the SAS which is more broad spectrum. Anyways rainbow goes in hard and fast bangers going off people screaming etc etc. look im not saying CT don't use mirrors they do, but thats only maybe 2% of the time other than that its quick peeking and pieing. But to justify the current cover system as them using mirrors is just plain wrong wheres the mirror or snake cam being pulled out? I dont see it coming in at a crappy angle it just takes to long to pull out equipment such as a mirror or to long to attach (such as the kitty corner shot) Really its better to have a rifle pointed down range with no target then a mirror pointed down with a target |
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heres simple solution:
first person view only (3rd person view...oh brother lol) a workable lean where people would lean out around corners and over things but no ability to walk and lean at the same time (enough give in the movement to take up a tight angle on corners e.t.c. though). Job done  |
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It appears that yaycookies69 has no military experience what so ever. If he did, he would know that gas masks are not conducive to normal conversational voices. I do have to ask him though, what quiet points has Anti made?
It's moot not mute. One other thing, Rainbow is based at Hereford and trains at the SAS killhouse and has former SAS members in it.  "Do not build your community around a game.... Build your game around a community" "Wearing a cup won't help either" Hatchetforce Staff GhostRecon.net | Aggression WhiteKnight77 | Blackfoot Studios | John Sonedecker Interview 2 |
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What do you guys think about this?
 When a team comes to a corner two of them would stack up like this with one man ducking and the other standing the standing man would hit the "left trigger" to enter cover behind man who is in cover behind the wall and peeking out. the man stand has to break cover before the man crouching can break his. What do you think of this? |
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yes. Rainbow was created to be similar to the SAS. i think they even share Hereford HQ and take advantage of SAS relationship with British Air for ease of international travel.
they train in the same facilities as the SAS, so its no surprise that rainbow would employ many of the same CQB tactics the SAS have already established. |
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That is a very commen way we do clear corners and works quite well trust me.  This message has been edited. Last edited by: zack991, --- "Don't build your community around a game, build your game around a community" www.blackfootstudios.com |
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Explain wtf is a Cowman wtf lamo *blink*
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i think he meant common
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Oh ah okay I wasn't thinking and yes it is a good way to clear corners lmao my bad zack wasn't trying to insult you i was think cowmen was your clan or some thing haha
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Kind of off topic, but has anyone noticed that the guys in that picture have MULTIPLE attachments on?
It's something that you can do in reality but can't do in Rainbow Six. This problem has been there since the first Rainbow Six game. -+-+_ |
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Yea sorry been drinking a lot to day going through a messy divorce as of right now. --- "Don't build your community around a game, build your game around a community" www.blackfootstudios.com |
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I agree, that's similar to what I was suggesting earlier. I think the L1 button could be used to push up against walls, or be utilized to enter a formation of some sort, be it at a corner or covering each other when moving across a room. I've seen harder game-play mechanics executed well, this shouldn't be impossible to work out. |
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****ty deal get really drunk play Vg 2 and it doesnt seem so bad actually lol To poster above me yeah couldn't remember the name but you are right you posted about it first but I brought pictures so I win ^_^ |
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You have my best wishes for you. -+-+_ |
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Forums Rainbow Six Rainbow Six Vegas 1& 2 [Console] Improving or replacing 3rd person cover, lean, etc.