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Hmm... Whoever is bluffing, we have.. methods for finding out *points to a comfortable chair and two red cloaked men with fluffy pillows*


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Damn you Dane! Damn you!
 
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but if they see MM as a brand on which they sell somewhat connected games then it would be an obvious place for them to set a RPG once RPGs really get popular again


But RPG's are popular. The Game of the Year in 2006 was Oblivion, and we haven't seen a decent (medieval) RPG since then. It's time for a new RPG, and Might and Magic has the legacy to challenge The Elder Scrolls if Ubisoft handle it properly. Bat that seems unlikely... Frown


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I think RPGs are pretty popular now, Fallout 3 just received a big award, and Dragon age origins and Mass Effect 2 are looking pretty good as well.

So i'd say an RPG is within the realm of possiblities.

Of course they then need to get someone competent to work on it. But i could certainly see it happen.


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Posts: 952 | Registered: Sun November 12 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hello, Xhane.
I'm really, really worried of the direction Ubisoft will take the franchise in. Moreover, which branch of M&M are you willing to continue?

Might and Magic (RPG series) ended with M&M 9.
Dark Messiah of M&M?
Heroes of M&M?

There have been rumors of a "Might&Magic" game being multiplatform, if that means HoMM then we can kiss the turn based, PC-like design everyone loves goodbye. Have you played King's Bounty made by Katauri? AMAZING game, I'd love this studio to make HoMM VI.

Then, there's M&M. I can imagine Ubisoft making another dungeon crawler cRPG in the series - for many platforms this time. But I fear dumbing down will take place or just catering to the console crowd...

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But RPG's are popular. The Game of the Year in 2006 was Oblivion, and we haven't seen a decent (medieval) RPG since then. It's time for a new RPG, and Might and Magic has the legacy to challenge The Elder Scrolls if Ubisoft handle it properly. Bat that seems unlikely... Frown


Oblivion an RPG? LOL. Seriously, it's just a hack and slash, Elder Scrolls has been so dumbed down since Morrowind it isn't funny. Same for Fallout 3 - it's not a Fallout game, it's not an RPG, it's a shooter with stats.
 
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Are you joking me? Oblivion is a RPG if ever there was one. Maybe not the best, but if Oblivion is a hack and slash, then Might and Magic VI is too.


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Are you joking me? Oblivion is a RPG if ever there was one. Maybe not the best,


How this game got 9/10, 10/10 everywhere is beyond me. It has a higher metacritic rating than Planescape Torment, Fallout 1&2, Baldur's Gate 2 to name just a few. Ridiculous.

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but if Oblivion is a hack and slash, then Might and Magic VI is too.


No, M&M is a dungeon crawler. Sub-genre of cRPGs. What it did, it did well. Not as good as Wizardry, but good nonetheless.
Oblivion hardly qualifies as an RPG. Stats don't matter - you can finish the game at level 1, the whole world scales according to your level, copy&paste design, empty, lifeless world, no choices and consequences to your actions, simplistic combat with no depth. And so on.
I stand corrected - it's a walking simulator with sword fighting and RPG elements.
Fallout 3 is the same. Better than Oblivion, but flawed in the same ways, it threw the gameplay design of the originals out the window and messed up the lore, mechanics, everything.
 
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Correction, Oblivion has some levelled creatures.


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Correction, Oblivion has some levelled creatures.


Maybe, maybe not. Didn't notice any difference. Finished the game without levelling up once.
Try doing that in, say, Gothic or Risen.

But enough of this, we're derailing the thread. Wink

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Sounds like you're lying here, because exp is not only won from killing, but sneaking, jumping etc.


So? It is possible to finish the game at lvl 1. Without raising ANY stat - that's what I mean by "levelling".

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Sounds like you're lying here, because exp is not only won from killing, but sneaking, jumping etc.


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Uhmm.. what exactly has Oblivion got to do with Might and Magic.. And what's the confusion about a franchise ? A franchise means you're branching out into multiple directions, so it would mean more than just Heroes of Might and magic, and we're already seeing it, we get Kingdoms, we've got that anime rubbish for the DS Shady ... And we've got Dark Messiah and HoMM V with it's two expansions.. So it's not exactly as if they aren't trying to branch it out.. Albeit i will admit that their first effort didn't seem too unified and well supported unlike other franchises which they were trying to push around the same time.

So i don't know. I hope they pull off a stronger effort this time around and actually try to stick with it instead of toying around a bit and then having a lapse for a few years with absolutely nothing happening. Almost as if they were Namco Bandai with the Warhammer Fantasy license.. and they handled it disgracefully.


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Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
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Might and Magic (RPG series) ended with M&M 9.


It doesn't have to stay that way. MM IX was hardly an apt ending. Of course, Ubi might choose to pretend it never existed, but by foresaking the father series theyre just missing out on the millions that other oldies like the old Final Fantasies are getting from handheld conversions.

Oblivion certainly is an RPG; I didn't think anybody was in doubt of that. Yes, it has a poor storyline since it's fundamentally a sandbox game, but Neverwinter Nights is no different. Final Fantasy 8 also has a levelscaling system.
 
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Would say Oblivion is a Hack n Slash RPG. Too repetitive, the annoying way of levels not being important and the endless Oblivion Gates and equally tough monsters all the way up make it pretty Hack n Slashish, while the huge and multitude of quests, the guilds, all the dialogue... Pretty clearly give it a bit more than some aspects of RPG.


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Originally posted by Secret_Holder:

But RPG's are popular. The Game of the Year in 2006 was Oblivion, and we haven't seen a decent (medieval) RPG since then. It's time for a new RPG, and Might and Magic has the legacy to challenge The Elder Scrolls if Ubisoft handle it properly. Bat that seems unlikely... Frown


I mentioned the RPGs becoming popular again because it is happening - if they weren't I would have found some other reason for them to make a RPG game in the MM world and with mainly MM aspects Shady

But I do believe they will make a RPG sometime, though I don't know how similar to MM it will be.


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I kiss you - when you aren't here
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Hi, and welcome Xhane! Smile


I'm anxiously awaiting news on the future of Heroes VI… and even though it's getting quite evident that it IS coming, I still have a few "prayers", namely:

1. DO NOT MAKE IT "ANIME"!!!

2. And as Mitzah100 mentioned before (see quote): Make multiplayer & the computer turns go FASTER! (+ Adding support for more then one processor core would be nice. I think most "gamers", and even people in general have computers with at least a dual (if not quad or more) core processors nowadays… and if you're gonna code for the Xbox360 & PS3, both with more then one CPU, why not for the PCs?

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It's nice to see that Ubisoft is really interested in the fans' opinions and feedback.

I'd really like to urge you guys to focus more on the story and on the multiplayer mode.We really need faster multiplayer games!
 
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Interesting discussion, I had just decided to replay HoMM III in the past few days after getting bored of my current selection of games. Decided to browse about news on HoMM VI and right now I am rather intrigued.
 
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Eah, for God's sake don't make it anime. It doesn't keep in line with the art direction of the series.


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So I am the only one who thinks, that animé imps would be cute? Sad Eyes


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Yes.

I hope somebody *cough*Xhane*cough* leaks the announcement of H6 to the dedicated forums before the big sites like GameSpot grabs it.


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While I agree with the "anti-anime" statement whole-heartedly, it is clearly the approach they have taken in their M&M games.

Also, by now they must've established the art style for HOMM/MMH VI and there's pretty much no chance of them changing it.

...

Damn it, I liked the NWC style, it was so representative of M&M - it looked like it's straight out of a medieval tale, engulfing you in its atmosphere like no other...

Don't take this wrong, I like anime, it's just that it's so... not Might and Magic.

*sheds a tear*
 
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Uhm.. It's not clearly the approach they have taken in the Might and Magic games, only in that DS thing they had going.. Besides, that.. not really any going on Razz

@Kalah: More likely we'll see a leak from some magazine or something or some site spilling it out than a site like gamespot get's it.. At least my personal opinion of gamespot rather has me hoping they don't get anything exclusive seeing as they're pretty inept.


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Pretty much everything in HV is inspired by anime/manga, except for the lack of huge eyes that is - most notably the two Elf factions, angels, priests and various elements of most of the creatures.

As for the other graphic elements of the game - it's all cartoony in a glossy sort of way. Not to say that the art of previous M&M games wasn't stylised - it was, but in a different, fairy tale sort of way that, in my opinion, suits M&M way better.
 
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