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Originally posted by unreal_az:
If the map editor was user friendly and didn't use a lot of resources, there would be more maps around.

This will cause H-V to have a shorter life, but it did not hurt its short term sales. As I mentioned I prefer H-IV because of its more RPG feel and its remarkably easy to use editor; if the H-V editor had been as easy to use, I may have been willing to move on to H-V.

Heroes V went to oblivion faster than any other heroes game. The argument "but today there are bizilion games out there, people dont like to play one game much time and move on" sorry but thats bull**** to me. Starcraft was made a bizilion years ago and still people play it. If a game is good or great, people will play it. Heroes V is not great, not even good. So people easily got over it. People are more demanding today, thats for sure. If a game doesnt have anything great or innovative, they will move on. Lets face it: Heroes V is a bad HIII remake. Zero innovation. Zero replayability. Zero multiplayer fun.

Now I hope if there is a heroes VI, another company takes the project and try being more creative, not just taking a 10 year old gameplay and making it 3D.

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Zero multiplayer fun.

No matter how much you say that there are still heroes v tournaments.

I still play it and still like it. My only real problem with it is the map editor and the maps that are made for it. It came with such a paltry amount compared to previous games and frankly I've only found one or two fan made maps that have really blown me away. I'm so sick and tired of playing maps that allow the opponent to reach you within 1-2 weeks and you don't get a chance to even do anything before being attacked as that seems to be the only priority of the crappy AI.

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Originally posted by xEaGLeNeC_:

Lets face it: Heroes V is a bad HIII remake. Zero innovation. Zero replayability. Zero multiplayer fun.

I for one am not willing to face such a nonsense.
HoMM V is NOT a HoMM III remake, even only the vast majority of the complaints about the battle and the spell systems prove this. It introduces non-spell active abilities during combat, made the factions extremely dependant on their unique heroes (which is more like HoMM II than III) with unique racial skills, changed completely the way the combats are being fought and so on. Whether this is good or bad is another topic, but it IS new. Saying that HoMM V is HoMM III remake is even dumber than this ancient lamer's complaint that "there's no difference between Heroes II and Heroes III".
The replayability is low becouse of the stupid campaign, nearly useless RMG, but most of all - the irrational system requirements (which are most visible on larger maps) - none of these has something to do with the gameplay itself.
As for the multiplayer part - yes, imagine that, people still organize tournaments.
Now quit trolling around ot at least find some more intelligent way to do it.

I'm not sure why some people are so hellbent on saying Heroes V failed.

No one is playing heroes but hardcore gamers who will continue to post here and say how great heroes V is.

Heroes V is a bad HII remake. Zero innovation. The core gameplay still the same. Just adding 3d graphics and making minor changes to the game wont change the fact that the gameplay was based on HIII (I believe that i read somewhere during the development that the devs were focusing on HIII).
If you are a dumb hardcore troll, its your problem, but the rest of the world gave HV a pass...

I suppose that you will make Heroes V a bad Heroes I remake in your next remake of your personal opinion. Let me add that your personal opinion doesn't strike me as well-founded.

Did H5 murder anyone you care about? :P

'Lets face it: Heroes V is a bad HIII remake. Zero innovation. Zero replayability. Zero multiplayer fun.'

Remake it is. More elegant, smarter, more tactics, more skills. Replayability is pretty good as long as you try those gazillion custom maps. Campaigns were not that fun. Multiplayer is a lot of fun, I often get new adds about people who join toh and want to learn. Heck my last add was yesterday.

You are highly biased.

Im not trying here to change the minds of hardcore heroes gamers... but face it, no one is playing HV. The popularity of this game is ridiculous.
If you cant see that the world gave a pass to HV, your opinion is much more biased than mine.

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Originally posted by xEaGLeNeC_:
Take sites like amazon. Heroes III sold much more than Heroes V... even Heroes IV sold more than V.

That's simply not true. AFAIK Heroes V without the expansions sold more than Heroes III with both addons so your point that Heroes V has failed commercially, has failed.

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Im not trying here to change the minds of hardcore heroes gamers... but face it, no one is playing HV. The popularity of this game is ridiculous.
If you cant see that the world gave a pass to HV, your opinion is much more biased than mine.

And on what facts do you base your statement?

I don't have to state mine, just check hc Many people play on toh but even more play lan or hotseat with their friends.

And no I'm not hardcore :P I just see things for what they are with their flaws and benefits.

Have you considered that the reason no one here agrees with you is that you're simply wrong?

@Moragauth if you are talking to xEaGLeNeC_ i agree with him.
Also the other 1000+ posters that were around here and decided to leave agree.
Also the 100 friends that i have and met playing homm 3 agree.
Homm5 failed.
REASON: NIVAL.

Normally I wouldn't be here either but I check when I'm bored :P Reason other activities, posting elsewhere and because I play the game.

I don't get why H5's success is measured relative to H3's success. H3 will remain in my top 5 favorite games until I die, and even though H5 is H3's direct heir, I don't think it's productive to trash H5 just because it isn't one of my favorite all-time games. I had fun with it (still am), what else matters?

Also, considering the cost of the game, I don't need to play it for 3 years to consider it a success, like one poster above suggested. Even including the cost of the computer, these games are some of the cheapest forms of entertainment available.

In any case H3 is like a food that has been heated in the oven one too many times. It's not the same as it was fresh even though it was excellent.

Yes, I agree with that. Good comparison.

Unreal, anecdotal evidence and a lack of people posting on a forum don't prove the case that HV was a failure, or that those who left would consider it so themselves. Gamers posting on forums are always a minority anyway. Only the loftiest standards would lead one to think HV has failed... but of course, some people will persist in holding the game to ridiculous standards. Have fun with that.

There's tons of posts at HC and CH (creepy they are reverse) so the lack of activity on the UBI forum doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

At HC Doomforge made a pretty valid post outlining the failure the games' MP mode...basically saying it wasn't like Blizzard games. Though flawed that doesn't mean it isn't used.