Post your reasons why this game failed commercially.
is it because of wow ? people are tired of tbs games ?

Lets discuss.

It failed commercially? That's news to me. Where did you get that?

Some what because of WOW, some what not, WOW is not the only game out there, but for large portion , yes.

For Heroes, because of less advertisement. Look at how Blizzard color WOW. WOW is everywhere, on newspaper, tv, internet, magazine, people talk about it more too...everywhere. On other hand, if my friend hadn't mentioned about Heroes, I wouldn't even know such game exist, sad isn't it.

But if I hadn't played Disciples II ^_^ my friend wouldn't mention Heroes. I just got Heroes V couple weeks ago (on the Sylvan story already). It's a very well made game. Nevertheless, I like Disciples more since it is more mature (like Guild War more mature than WOW, u know, not cartoon looking)

Anyway, as you can see advertisement greatly impact the popularity of everything.

It failed becouse there are no trolls in the game. Having trolls around is of great importance you know, nothing's the same without them.

It failed? The only failure I saw was that it could have been excellent but instead became pretty good. That and the problematic start.

I belive the income was even greater than expected, considering the investments. (somme UBI sources)

It did not fail, at least as far as I am concerned. I doubt it failed commercially. So you had best define 'failed' in this context.

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Originally posted by Xenofex_086:
It failed becouse there are no trolls in the game. Having trolls around is of great importance you know, nothing's the same without them.

Ahaa, now i understand why they are messing here and creating topics
Baclance must be for everything.

Before we all dismiss this out of hand, what are the real sales figures for this game? I am the only person I know playing it. If you look on the forums, you will see mostly the same people posting- perhaps a couple dozen regulars. If the game was a commercial success, then give us some hard numbers to prove it.

I very much doubt if a company as profit orientated as Ubisoft, would bother making two expansions, for HoMM V if it hadn't sold well. As for anyone providing Sales figures, only Ubi can do that, as their Quarterly Fiscal reports that are published, rarely include a breakdown of sales of individual games.

Take sites like amazon. Heroes III sold much more than Heroes V... even Heroes IV sold more than V.

It still doesn't make it a commercial failure as your original post asserts.
To me a Commercial failure is something that loses money, and like I said, Ubi likes money, they wouldn't bother making expansions for a product that lost money.

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Originally posted by xEaGLeNeC_:
Take sites like amazon. Heroes III sold much more than Heroes V... even Heroes IV sold more than V.

Look I prefer H-IV to H-V, but using amazon stats is hardly a valid measure of how well H-V sold. I must admit I have never seen any official figures for either game, but I would be surprised if it didn't out sell H-IV by a wide margin. To me its biggest failure was the map editor and not building on aspects (RPG) of H-IV that I enjoyed. Commerically I have to believe H-V was a success, we'll know for sure if an H-VI makes it to market.

Look at amazon numbers today: Heroes III still selling more than V and all expansions! A game released almost 10 years ago! boy, thats what a call a huge commercial success! (for heroes III, of course)

lets face it: the world didnt notice Heroes V.

Why Heroes V had this fate of oblivion so soon ?
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It didn't For one that's just one place to look. Secondly H3 has had some years to reach those sales. Third, I'm sure you know what happened after H4. Heroes is a game that depends a lot on its community and it was almost dispersed or got older and has less free time.

Also I hope that you are not influenced by the activity you see here. If you check other independent sites as HC or celestial heavens you'll see plenty of activity still.

IT DID.. OK ? If not there would be like 200+ posters active each day around here.
BUt it did fail and the reason is simple. Ubisoft was cheap, they hired Nival and the lack of experience leaded to so many bugs in the first version.
If the game would be good there would be more then 10 posters around here/day ok?
Where are the people that were so active when the game was announced? Zamolxe, Kartabon, Znork, Oak.. etc? Don't you think they kinda got bored with the game and stoped playing it?
After 2 years it got boring.
Homm3 after 9 years isn't.
Unfortunately the graphics are old. The gameplay is great.
So if a tbs doesn't keep you playing it for at least 3 years = failure.

I enjoyed the game... I don't play HIII either. The only thing that gets me down with HV, other than the AI and small glitches, is the lack of good maps. AFAIC it did not fail.

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Originally posted by xEaGLeNeC_:
Look at amazon numbers today: Heroes III still selling more than V and all expansions! A game released almost 10 years ago! boy, thats what a call a huge commercial success! (for heroes III, of course)

lets face it: the world didnt notice Heroes V.

Why Heroes V had this fate of oblivion so soon ?
discuss

And Amazon is the ONLY place that you can buy the game from? Right... You seem to be forgetting all the other online sites and most of all.. retail. Retail is where most of the money comes from. Oh and lets not forget Ubi's own Digital Store.

H5 did not fail.
Even before the first expansion H5 sold more copies than H3 did in it’s entire existence.
H5 hit sales numbers that Ubi hadn’t even expected in their wildest dreams.

The reason why quite some people ‘think’ that H5 failed is because of one major difference.

When H3 came out it was a special kind of game and it took years before something like it came along. So people have been playing H3 for years.

H5 came along in a time where pretty much all games companies had given the genre a try, and not to forget where other huge and tempting games were out there. (Morrowind, Oblivion C&C and so on.) So, people went out and bought H5 in droves and made it a huge success that even helped making sales figures of Ubi that year. In an interview with CNN someone of Ubi said that most of the money that year was made from H5 and some other game I can’t remember.

H5 was a huge success, but here comes the difference with H3.
People bought H3 and played it for years, some are still playing it today.
People bought H5 and played it for a few weeks/months and then moved on to a different game because there were more games to play.

It’s simple, H5's shelve life is over, nothing more nothing less.

But even there. Someone can cay that it’s a failure that people moved on. I disagree. In a time where game play is measured in hours (like reviews saying that the game is calibrated to give you thirty hours of game play) I think it can be considered a huge success that people played it in droves for months before moving on.

H.W.
(Who is not dead, but just moved on mostly as well.)

Moving on for a tbs is bad news.
If the map editor was user friendly and didn't use a lot of resources, there would be more maps around.
The replayability of this type of games is measured in number of maps.
For a fps is the multiplayer, ex cs, battlfield etc.
For a RTS is the number of strategies. SC, WAR 3, C&C etc.
For a tbs is the number of strategies and maps.
Cause I played 2000+ maps vs the ai only cause they were done great.
Why were they done great? Easy to use and simple editor.
Aslo the gameplay means a lot ...
Also in the old day there were a lot of games out there: Sc, Fallout, Diablo etc.
So if a game is great it will be played if not... it's not great.