Didn't you wonder what if UBI piced some other developer to do HoMM5? I don't say Nival did bad job doing HoMM5 - but it's hard not to admit, that they didn't meet many expectations. Game came delayed, unbalanced, buggy, lacking maps, neutral units... Everyone can add something to this list. I want to make myself clear: HoMM5 is a great game, but I can't help thinking - it could have been much better. For those reasons, I wonder, if it wouldn't be better for the game (HoMM VI) if UBI picked some other developer studio to make that game. What do YOU think?

Question:
Should UBI pick Nival to make HoMM VI?

Choices:
YES, absolutely, they did great job with HoMM V
Yes, they will certainly learn from theirs mistakes, and make HoMM VI even better!
No, they did good work with HoMM V, but HoMM VI sould me done by someone else
No, ABSOLUTELY NO. Nival is the worse choice for that, UBI please!
I don't care about HoMM VI

 

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What do YOU think?

i actually ment: "write it below"

I think Nival did a good job with Heroes V, however, good is not enough - we want more. I'm very happy that UbiSoft bought this franchise but I do wonder what would have happen if they allowed another company to make the new Heroes. So, yes, I basically I voted for option 3 and I do agree that Nival didn't meet many expectations.

Hell, I want 3do back

I can’t vote since my choice ‘neutral’ isn’t on there.

I actually find this a hard question to answer. Looking just at H5 I would say ‘hell no!!!.’

But, it’s more than that. On a positive note you could say; Alright, they were sloppy with H5, but it was their training ground and now the will know what they are doing.

Also, let’s not forget the big one. Let’s say that Ubi went with someone else for H6... and that someone has no experience with a Heroes like game, you might have the same mess we had now all over again.

Good or bad, Nival at least has Heroes experience now.

So, while that this is not a choice in the poll I actually vote for:

Let’s see how the expansion, also made by Nival, turns out. If the expansion shows that Nival learned some lessons and is of a good/satisfactorily standard, then yes, Nival should be picked again. If not... let Ubi stay far, far, away from Nival for H6.

H.W.

@alias-hw
@"I can’t vote since my choice ‘neutral’ isn’t on there."

Actually 2nd option was ment for people who think similar to You: Nival messed HoMM5 in many places, but now, they gained experience (leveled up ) and they will put it to good use with HoMM6.

Actually I voted for that option, but i have divided feelings about that. Most of all, New World Computing, (at least since 1997) was DEVOTED to M&M world - they've been doing HoMMs and M&Ms only, whereas Nival works on several different games (Hard Truck: Apocalypse for example), and HoMM5 does not even has to be the most important one for them. This is the reason why I would like UBI to give H6 to some little studio, that would devote itself completely to the game. But on the other hand, they would have NO HoMM experience (unless UBI hires old NWC empleyees ), which is why they would be prone to same mistakes/errors Nival did with HoMM5

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Originally posted by krzyz:
@alias-hw
@"I can’t vote since my choice ‘neutral’ isn’t on there."

Actually 2nd option was ment for people who think similar to You: Nival messed HoMM5 in many places, but now, they gained experience (leveled up ) and they will put it to good use with HoMM6.

A, but... we don’t know if they learn(ed) from their mistakes, so I don’t feel confident saying: ‘Yes, they will certainly learn from theirs mistakes, and make HoMM VI even better!’

After some of the stubbornness that Nival has shown I won’t simply say ‘they will certainly have learned.’ With Nival, nothing is certain... with the exception that they will certainly miss their deadline.

H.W.

Please, for the love of God, don't use Nival!

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Originally posted by AdumbroDeus:
Please, for the love of God, don't use Nival!

And what if I don't love God?
Nival KNOW how to do the right kind of "the next Heroes" (i.e. unlike NWC and Heroes IV), but they also know how to suck money from the fans, along with their publishers. Which is not that good combination. 1 year later, about 100 bugs less, better AI, map editor, RMG and the lack of some insane balance decision should have proven the second part of the previous sentence meaningless, but that's just one of the "if"s. The game IS unbalanced, still buggy, without editor and RMG, the AI requires some improvement.
If Nival and Ubi show that they are more interested in making games, not money, sure - I vote for them. But otherwise...

Voted option No.2.

I think Nival did a good job with Heroes V while it could have been better (as always - I haven't seen a perfect game so far). You can't ask of them that they'll immediately create a better game than the previous Heroes installments - NWC was working with the Heroes series for years and with the Might and Magic games - for even longer time (since the 80-ies). Nival is sort of a newcomer with own ideas how Heroes should look like so give them time. I'm sure they'll have learned a lot from their mistakes and will improve, releasing the add-on. So yes, Nival definetely should make HoMMVI. If Ubisoft will choose another developer, everything will have to be started from scratch and I have no reason to believe that things will be better. Just be patient and give Nival some time.

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they also know how to suck money from the fans, along with their publishers.

Well, you should have known that game developers are earning money by designing games so you can't really blame them for that - gamers are given a choice to spend their money or not. This is a commerce and not a charitable fund.

I agree with alias here, they didn't do what they had to do but game has big possibilities. But I really doubt that they could learn. It is obvious they do not respect community too much and game is too similar to Warcraft and mainstream fantasy [dark elves, graphics and so on].

No, absolutely not.
There have just been too many problems with Nival.

I'd rather wait until 1.3 before voting.
Last chance.

"No, ABSOLUTELY NO"

Nival is not a professional and serious development team. It must be replaced for persons with aptitude to fulfill the objectives, and especially with more creativity and talent.

Sorry, but I don't believe that Nival would learn from their mistakes if given a second chance. They did a sloppy job because that's who they are … not because they needed a "training ground".

New World Computing didn't need a training ground when they developed Heroes I and its sequels … because they cared about the game and took pride in their work.

No, get another developer for Heroes VI.

It's too early to think about Heroes VI. Ahead of us are at least 2 expansions. Let's see what they'll do and then think about HoMM 6.
And after all - we can't even be sure there'll be a Heroes VI. What if Ubi decide to give an end to Heroes?
Only time can tell.

The replies we get from Nival usually are like'cut us some slack we're bored/have better things to do/can't do that/we work on smthing better(which we never get in a good shape or in time)'.I say let them continue their work for H5,thank them for what they have done and wish them good riddance.Their did a decent job so far but it is obvious that they don't care enough to be given another chance.Unless they show otherwise...

i think nival did what the comunity asked for.
and a litle extra what makes the comunity angry.

they did a small evolution from h3 as most of the people aked for and now becouse everybody is asking nival why the game is like this they try something new totaly new like lets say the dwarfs)). but in the end there's no ones fault becouse the game is like this, or everybodys fault and nival for listening so well to the comunity and trying to please everybody.

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Originally posted by Secret_Holder:
No, absolutely not.
There have just been too many problems with Nival.

Yep. Althoug I would have prefeered an option like "I would really prefeer someone else"... Not you Someone

well, i would like to point one thing. Nival was hired by Ubi. Nival is long time here and they make a lot of games, so Ubi knew what is level of Nival. All Nival games were not Legends and not the best, only Rage of Mages was really finished, really well made game. So why u think that if Ubi will choose someone else they will do it better than Nival? i know Nival products very well, so from the begin i did not expected homm5 to be really great game, i think Ubi knew the same, they are not lamers in this buisness. and i am pretty sure that FC and Ubi decide a lot of aspects in homm5.