Also if ubi dose not finesh jack's story ill see about buying rights and writing a book.

I think the new guy looks awsm but if it was possible at least make it for multiplayer if you got a certain amount of achievements you could unlock jack carver as a playable character online or if u complete it u could do it agen as jack carver PLZ!!! do it

since crytek pissed off to the evil EA games, this is only a sequel to farcry in name as :
A: this is not using the cryengine2 ;and;
B: there is no jack
so for all intents and purposes this is just a blatent cash grab by ubisoft by sucking people in with a familiar name.They say it is the only "true" sequel, but with out jack it is no sequel.Much like predator 2, no arnie, **** sequel.

i want Jack!!!!

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Originally posted by deadmeat3330:
Getting rid of jack carver wouldn't bother me so much because firstly you never get to see him, only his guns and tattoo
secondly i mainly only plaay multiplayer on far cry so i'm not at good terms with the storyline
and lastly i think that by now he should have at least retired from all that running around on desert islands because, well, he wouldn't want to get himself killed now would he?
if u want to know my opinion you should be able to create you own main character and select from a variety of names so the movie parts on the campaign act as if they are talking directly to you, putting the player into the game and letting them experince it first hand.

öh? :O

EDIT: Heh, sorry, that is Swedish for "HuH"?

not so much "jack" himself but I think the fact that FC2 has zero to do with FC 1 except the name and original concept art which had a guy who looked just like carver.. which btw so did crysis originally...

I personally would still love an expansion pack with a revamped MP... you figure the engine and models were already there, they could have redone the mp netcode but used the lua scripting from mp and with relatively minimal effort put out a product that would have sold a ton of copies and would have cost them nothing compared to making a game from scratch... shoot they could have probably put together an expansion pack from the edited crytek content from the game and edited ubisoft content from "patch 1.4" we all know they had some goodies they wanted to throw in there that didnt make it..

Jack Carver wasn't the game. Yeah, he was a great character, but he didn't make the game what it was; the gameplay, the beautiful environments, the awesome storyline made FC what it was. And as far as I can tell, all of the above are going to be included in FC2 as well. But Jack might be included as one of the playable characters, who knows? I just hope the new character(s) are as funny and talkative as Jack was. and maybe they can throw in a few strong, silent types for those fans, too.

And I think you're right about how this isn't really a sequel, but more of using the momentum from a previous game that did well to launch an entirely unrelated shooter. I mean, they even redesigned the engine for it! Might as well call it by a different name.

I don't personally care whether Jack is the main character or not, but why is this being called Far Cry 2 when it has literally NO connection to Far Cry in any way?

-Not made by original development team

-Not using the original engine (or even a modified version of the original engine)

-Has nothing to do with original story

-Has no Jack

-Has no feral abilities from Far Cry instincts

-Does not take place on an island

-More open ended and non-linear than original

-Has no Trigens

No connection in any way with original game, yet somehow it is still a sequel? Why not just give it an original name since it clearly is an original game?

I vote for Jack "resurection" also... voice and jokes included .

Based on my experience with UBI's way of doing business and hype, I don't believe them when they say that they have ''investigated'' the popularity of Jack Carver to Far Cry gamers.

This is still the kind of BS that no one but Ubisoft has the secret.

If they really made some kind of poll or survey about Jack Carver, why didn't they think about making it in the most likely place to get a picture: the Far Cry forums? Personally, I've never seen such kind of thread initiated by the devs about it.

I have to say that I laugh when the devs say that their ''studies'' show that the gamers do not know who is Jack Carver; they asked to Halo twits or what?

Seriously, Jack Carver has far more personality than most contemporary game characters out there, whether they are called Gordon Freeman, Master Chief or William B.J. Blazkowicz's.

The truth is that this ''study'' by Ubisoft is, much like anything else said by this company's marketing gurus, nothing but a stinky pile of ****. Ubisoft has a culture based on arrogance and the last thing Ubisoft wants to know is what the player thinks. Like with the Rainbow Six franchise, Ubisoft wanted to create a totally new game but use an already existing franchise to benefit from an established fan base. Scrapping Jack Carver and anything else related to the original game was truly straightforward for UBI. This blatant lie about their so-called ''study'' on the popularity of Jack carver is just another trick from the marketing gurus to fool us and make us believe that Ubisoft cares. LOL!

The Far Cry games seem to be more like their own individual stories with diffent premises and plots, rather than continued and related stories.

Heh, I think this needs a poll. That said, forums tend to attract mainly the most diehard fans of a game, so it wouldn't be surprising to me if we didn't really represent the feelings of gamers in general.

The good news is that you get to play as one of many different news. That will turn into bad news if they do something dumb like have Jack killed (instead of in pleasant retirement) or don't make the different characters stand out from each other (I guess they said they would, right?)

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Originally posted by tu34:
I love Jack in his red Hawai shirt

Ayup. I didn't think he had the greatest personality, but it was distinct and he had his moments.

But apparently they listened to the focus group.

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Ayup. I didn't think he had the greatest personality, but it was distinct and he had his moments.

I have to disagree. I felt his personality was engaging and refreshing actually. He came across as as a unwilling, unlucky, poor sap with mad MAD skills. Most other main video game characters are heros by choice to save the day....Jack, not so much. Left up to him.... he'd rather be catching rays on some bikini clad beach sucking down margaritas.

Btw, I'm with xoops. I'm not buying this so-called focus group. Sounds like a lot BS to me.

We should start a 'conspiracy theories' thread (with a poll for those poll'sters).

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Or a DOOM without that nameless marine guy?

Wait a second...both DOOM III games had player characters who were quite obviously not the "original DOOM guy." But here's your topic back, anyway.

For most shooters, I really don't care who the main character is, it is all about just shooting stuff anyway. Regardless of how you spin it, FPS means First Person Shooter (Regardless of lead character, you just shoot stuff) For something like Far Cry 2, I am actually interested in meeting a lead character that I don't know, but I will still be just running around shooting stuff :P

As for the focus testing, why would you post about 'Who is Jack Carver?' on a Far Cry forum when you clearly know what answer you will get. The developers are very unlikely to post a thread on a forum and see what replies they get, because it would more than likely turn out biased/spammed to death, which kind of missed the whole point or the testing. That kind of testing proves nothing other than Fans of Far Cry can remember what a character in the game was called and that they have strong opinions on Far Cry and the direction they feel it should go.

The Focus Testing is to find out if people actually care about a named character in Far Cry, the results came back no, since many people did not know who he was, did not actually play or enjoy Far Cry or were not that emotionally attached to Jack to worry if he would be in another game or not. Is it really worth dragging Jack back into Far Cry 2 and having to explain how and why he is there and then wrap that all up in his previous history? Of course you could do some creative writing and bring him back, but who is to say that it is bad to introduce a new character to the mix? Who knows where that could lead in the future hmm.

Who is to say that Far Cry 2 won't have an interesting, deep and well written lead character too? I think maybe people should wait to play the full game and then see if it was worth not having Jack in Far Cry 2.

Just my opinions

Since I had no details of the focus group other than the following...the results just seemed strange and unbeliaveable. Its easy to believe the results if asked of people who never heard or played the game. Seems to me a better question might be....Should the main character in ANY 1st game return in the 2nd?

The protagonist of previous Far Cry games, Jack Carver, will not be featured in this game. When Ubisoft interviewed players about the original Far Cry in their research for this game, the interviewees didn't find the character very memorable or likeable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_2

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The developers are very unlikely to post a thread on a forum and see what replies they get, because it would more than likely turn out biased/spammed to death, which kind of missed the whole point or the testing.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.

However, the flip side is that people on a Forum like this are the ones who are likely to really care about the issue.

A group of gamers who might like to play FarCry but don't really have anything invested in the game AND who apparently would vote Jack Carver off the continent wouldn't likely have been put off much had he not come back. From the way the sentence about the poll was structured, it seemed more like indifference than anything else.

I'm glad that the devs are hitting their stride and looking for ways to make the series unique, but this is breaking tradition with so much of FarCry that it's going to feel like a completely different world (not that I'm complaining).

Carver is cool but i dont care if he isnt in it

Lets face it, for any FPS, the main character is you!!