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Originally posted by TGxXOutLawXx16:
dude realy **** up its cheating when we take grimson but when u take ours or europe its not yous just cant take what we are in your homeland now so u make up ****

......... I hope that wasn't directed at my response.

Outlaw and guys i think you guys are going overboard seriously. Grissom was a strange happening but like i listed my two reasons above in my other post it could have happened, then u always have the possibility of more sgb players getting better too. In resposne to your question about jsf not being to be attacked in northern europe....we wont to use that territory tow will not let us use it, the few times it was under attack was a freebie attack form no where from europe. IF anyone wants to complain about side being rigged turn tow back to turn 20 and look at how efec territories moved, very few, despite their constant losses..why cause tow has worked into a deadlock of its rules that protects efec.

Now on the talk about we have most of the player base, Gentry that is more of a disadvantage than a advantage, if you play jsf for about 10 turns you'd know why. Most of JSF wins come from the good and elite players, typically jsf can win, problem is the map fight is more you vs yuor bad jsf comrades, you have to win enough to outweigh their losses, its been that way for a wile. Its not doubt jsd has the most noobs, things were good but went down some, there are still some noobs left.

Now my only comment about extensive cheating proof is if Shenandoah falls like campbell did wit those over high percentages. really i dont tihnk it should fall at all but if its clsoe i can understnad it, cause its highly possible a bunch of jsf players quit(or dont put much time in anymore) and that that helps out the sgb who are still in there and getting most matches up vs the not so good ones, its has happeend forjsf before too.

Also if you are sure you are not cheating then dont coem in hear cussing and upset guys, if its not you why yel about it? No reoasn for the non-guilty man to yell out. Though personally i wish the ppl who do cheat(on all sides) would stop..when u have a 0-40 record or above...I know what you're doing.

thats cool storm, i aint mad, just feel like god forsake we actually play well and people think we cheat. look at my record, i've only ever played as sgb so i don't know about jsf, other than playing against them.i do know, that there is alot of boosting going on, and i do know that no one i play with does this. and i will not play with them either. all it does is fuk up the game. and i can agree, there are alot of worthless jsf players, but that could be said for sgb too. most of your elite players i have battled with more than 4 games a day. for instance, 12-2 on cambell on 4v4 only. look forward to staying up until two in the morning, to try to hold as many maps as possible, sucks having to work at 8 am afterwords, but it is good to see the progress i've helped work for. last, i think outlaws post was directed somewhere else, not to you

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Everyone that's SGB in this thread seems to be quite offended. The point is not that there aren't good SGB players. b_4721, storm and myself know it. Lots of JSF know it. I've fought against both of you Redbullking and gentry420 and both of you are great players. Your records also show for it. So don't take offense.

We were never said that you fighting there wasn't legitimate. What we were saying was that IT IS ODD and out of the ordinary for a map where the JSF wins consistently by 400 wins on average can suddenly fall into the hands of the SGB after 40 turns not including previous wars.

I spoke with a player from the Netherlands who plays as SGB whom I've befriended recently and he said he fought hard at Grissom too, but met no worthy competition for the hours he played there at Grissom. He said himself, BlueCheese, and some others fought many games at Grissom. He used Dr_Gerbick as an example too.

What ultimately happened was a large focus of SGB players from mediocre to great playing at Grissom. Even with all that focus combined it would still be difficult to overcome that 400 game deficit typically associated with Grissom. The point is that the cheating was so blatantly obvious it wasn't funny. I had a look at the leaderboards and you can see a lot of good SGB players near the top already this week due to Grissom. So let's say hypothetically 20 good SGB players focused on Grissom and put in 30 games each, that's still ONLY 600 games, there's still 582 games remaining, 400 of which would typically be lost by the SGB.

LOL i give up on explaining, what make you think we have to catch up on a 400 games. maybe not the usual amount of good JSF players played at Grissom because they got too cocky and played at carpathia. It don't matter anyway i don't see you guys getting campbell back i think the map favours the defenders.

yeah, it depends on how you play, but campbell will be w/o supports tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Storm2678:

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Originally posted by redbullking84:
At the Beginning of the war SPZ was doing the same to JSF at rodane and all of a sudden it started to even out because JSF players must of learn't how to play the map, obviously the same thing happened to grissom.

Turn 7 the russians won by around 500 and then turn 9 JSF won!!! it happens on both sides.

that happened once. Aklso it waas quickly pushed back i attribute grissom to a combo of cheating and palyers not playing, I knwo i did not paly that day and regret it since i could have easily made those 3 games up. Now if shenodoah falls like the percentages from Campbell then its obvious cheating, no real denying that. I'll be watching very closely today. but guys try to avoid fighting each other like this on the forum. redbullking no one said u cant win, just some things get suspicious.

Ad for my comaplint for tow


WHY DOES EFEC GET FREEBIES LIKE NO OTHER. THEY HAVE IT IN TOW WHERE THEY ARE IN A SAFE ZONE, U HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING THE TERRITORIES OVER AND OVER AGAIN EVEN WHEN YOU WIN THEM, THIS IS FOR BOTH SGB AND JSF...WHY IS EFEC IMMUNE TO ATTACK? THIS ISN'T A 3 WAY WAR, ITS A 2 WAY WAR, ITS ALWAYS A 2 WAY WAR, EFEC IS ONLY IN IT WHEN THEY HAVE SAME GROUND ANYTIME THEY GET PUSHED BACK INTO EUROPE THEY GET INVINCIBLE WTF?!!!


ok rant over, had to get that off my chest.

Yea like Random Revolts at Le Cieto kept happing given them extra chances to get it, how come we never got that when they took Maxwell

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Originally posted by eagle357_d:
Everyone that's SGB in this thread seems to be quite offended. The point is not that there aren't good SGB players. b_4721, storm and myself know it. Lots of JSF know it. I've fought against both of you Redbullking and gentry420 and both of you are great players. Your records also show for it. So don't take offense.

We were never said that you fighting there wasn't legitimate. What we were saying was that IT IS ODD and out of the ordinary for a map where the JSF wins consistently by 400 wins on average can suddenly fall into the hands of the SGB after 40 turns not including previous wars.

I spoke with a player from the Netherlands who plays as SGB whom I've befriended recently and he said he fought hard at Grissom too, but met no worthy competition for the hours he played there at Grissom. He said himself, BlueCheese, and some others fought many games at Grissom. He used Dr_Gerbick as an example too.

What ultimately happened was a large focus of SGB players from mediocre to great playing at Grissom. Even with all that focus combined it would still be difficult to overcome that 400 game deficit typically associated with Grissom. The point is that the cheating was so blatantly obvious it wasn't funny. I had a look at the leaderboards and you can see a lot of good SGB players near the top already this week due to Grissom. So let's say hypothetically 20 good SGB players focused on Grissom and put in 30 games each, that's still ONLY 600 games, there's still 582 games remaining, 400 of which would typically be lost by the SGB.

You have logic unlike the Troll (*Cough* B *Cough..Cough*) There are alot of Amazing Russian, suddenly overcoming 400 average is strange, but at least this opens up new fronts, Plus shouldn't JSF & SGB focus on getting rid of Europe which took a map that fought for very hard for(got like 3-5 mil there) which they probably cheated since we had it for almost a week

first off, i'd like to thank rage for being a great, clean JSF player. might be one the funnest to play. however, i do have to agree with red, i think more of the players on for jsf went to carpathia, thinking there was no way they were going to lose grissom. we gave up carpatia for grissom, and for the sgb, that is a great trade off. we figured out the best way to get grissom, and seems jsf kept the same strategy for the most part, which allowed us to capitolize on grissom. i don't like people who cheat, and will call it like i see it when i find them, but, i don't think there is anyway to control some ******** making two accounts on his ps and trying to ruin it for all. i do wish the faction players count was a little more even. later guys, i got wrecked cars to fix

Ft Campbell you call us cheats we were beaten yous so badly then after an hour yous were beaten us we had like 67% on that map and then we lose when hardly any of you pussy *** jsf bitches even fu*king show and when yous do yous leave lol and you call us cheats yous make me laugh