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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:14 AM
I kind of wish that Athena Sword will have more than 7 weapons added to it... I suppose that there will be a lot more maps to play on, and another campaign, but more than a new campaign or maps, what I'm really interested in is the veriety of guns & gadgets (not that 64 isn't a good quantity.)

I love the great sums of weapons and attatchments with their great 1st person graphics, that's the best thing about Raven Shield.

Too late now, but I'd really like to see weapons, attatchments, equipment, and ammo added as some of the main things in expansions to Rainbow Six games, Who agrees with me?





(Maybe some of the weapons along with the top of the line new technology guns, they could have some older weapons too?)

Still looking forward to Athena Sword though,
just a thought.
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:14 AM
I kind of wish that Athena Sword will have more than 7 weapons added to it... I suppose that there will be a lot more maps to play on, and another campaign, but more than a new campaign or maps, what I'm really interested in is the veriety of guns & gadgets (not that 64 isn't a good quantity.)

I love the great sums of weapons and attatchments with their great 1st person graphics, that's the best thing about Raven Shield.

Too late now, but I'd really like to see weapons, attatchments, equipment, and ammo added as some of the main things in expansions to Rainbow Six games, Who agrees with me?





(Maybe some of the weapons along with the top of the line new technology guns, they could have some older weapons too?)

Still looking forward to Athena Sword though,
just a thought.
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:29 AM
totally agree with u, one problem though:Ubi Soft. they just dont wanna release the SDk, go figure huh....

"but from the looks of this forum, Valve makes Ubi look like a fan loving charity organization."
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:44 AM
ST-Omega wrote:
- totally agree with u, one problem though:Ubi Soft.
- they just dont wanna release the SDk, go figure
- huh....

It's not that they don't want to release, it's they are going to release it in December but that's a long time to wait.

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:52 AM
MurDoc wrote:
- It's not that they don't want to release

Well....they actually don't want to, otherwise they would /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif .

I don't see why they aren't. After RSE released the 3dsm plugins for Rogue Spear, Black Thorn still sold. I believe that Pies Tactics started a petition to get the 3dsm plugins and a few thousand people signed it.

All Ubi has to do is give me the .u files without the code hidden and unusable, and I'd be happy. I don't care about documentation or example and illustrations, I just want to mod! They obviously have the real .u files, which is basically all the SDK is composed of (if you download the Unreal SDK, all it is is exported .uc's from .u's), because, well, they made the .u files, and they are using them to make Athena Sword and Mynarski.

So all it comes down to is....is that they don't WANT to release them right now, even though it would benefit everyone, Ubi included.

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 08:15 AM
More than 7 weapons? So the total count should be 70 weapons, or better 100? Yeah, that would make the game so realistic like it isnâ´t allready?
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 08:52 AM
7 weapons and however many maps there are going to be, and two or three different MP modes. Cost: $30-50.

Once the SDK is released, we will be getting mods that offer 10-20 maybe even 50 weapons, maps out our ears, and almost assuredly, different game modes. Cost: Not a bloody dime.

The past R6 titles have had a an incredibly talented mod community (DTD comes to mind), and a good number of them will probably migrate to RvS. I remember some of the mods for Rogue Spear that were better than any of the original stuff, both weapons and maps. I can't help but imagine that it will be the same here, once we get the tools we need.

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 08:48 PM
Dont forget all the other things that will ruin the game, the stupid anti-gravity mods, Paintball, UBER-speed,the list goes on for things that shouldnt be.


My ladder stats. (http://ladder.ubi.com/index.asp?gamename=RAVENSHIELD&ladderid=0&modeid=0&lan=en&FILTERCHANGE=1&SELECT_ALIAS=EXACT&INPUT_ALIAS=IDPA_Master&SELECT_COUNTRY=&SELECT_RATING=EQUAL&INPUT_RATING=&SELECT_KILL=EQUAL&INPUT_KILL=&SELECT_DEATH=EQUAL&INPUT_DEATH=&SELECT_COMBAT=EQUAL&INPUT_COMBAT=&x=41&y=10) Albeit not good.
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 09:18 PM
IDPA_Master wrote:
- Dont forget all the other things that will ruin the
- game, the stupid anti-gravity mods, Paintball,
- UBER-speed,the list goes on for things that shouldnt
- be.
-


At least there will be a choice. At the moment you get what your given and have to live with it.

If people decide to make a "CS in space" mod then thats fine, it dosent mean we all have to play it but it does give us a choice. And if you dont want to play it, you simply dont dl the mod, it ruins nobodies game.

From what ive read about plans for mods, nearly all want to make them with more realisim rather than "anti-gravity" and that can only make the game better.
XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 09:47 PM
so?

theres already 50 or so guns in the game, enough to choke a redneck

I miss the original when you only had a total of 9 guns

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 10:01 PM
Why would you want to be limited to strictly 9 weapons? Even for MP that is far too linear. Having more weapons isn't going to hurt anything, and it allows for more gameplay diversity.

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 10:23 PM
It avoided confusion,

think about it, the game has practically every version of the MP5, except for a couple export versions

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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 11:04 PM
Does anyone remember the Temporary Tango mod for Rogue Spear? that was my favorite mod of all time. Rodeon was one of the best.

"but from the looks of this forum, Valve makes Ubi look like a fan loving charity organization."
XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 12:16 AM
It doesnt matter to me that there is only gonna be 7 new weapons because all i want is the greatest secondary weapong in the history of the world! The all mighty BERETTA!
XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 12:28 AM
- It's not that they don't want to release, it's they
- are going to release it in December but that's a
- long time to wait.
-


heh by that time rvs prob wont be aroudn ne more

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XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 01:30 PM
ST-Omega wrote:
- Does anyone remember the Temporary Tango mod for
- Rogue Spear? that was my favorite mod of all time.
- Rodeon was one of the best.
-
- sure do!!!!!, loved that mod for UO....
XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 02:09 PM
Wasn't the full name of the 92FS in RS the "92FS Beretta"?

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XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 04:31 PM
When you get morons that alter the server speed, or gravity, you have no choice.


My ladder stats. (http://ladder.ubi.com/index.asp?gamename=RAVENSHIELD&ladderid=0&modeid=0&lan=en&FILTERCHANGE=1&SELECT_ALIAS=EXACT&INPUT_ALIAS=IDPA_Master&SELECT_COUNTRY=&SELECT_RATING=EQUAL&INPUT_RATING=&SELECT_KILL=EQUAL&INPUT_KILL=&SELECT_DEATH=EQUAL&INPUT_DEATH=&SELECT_COMBAT=EQUAL&INPUT_COMBAT=&x=41&y=10) Albeit not good.
XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 04:38 PM
Also, the 93r is going to be the reason to buy Athena, as well as the new shotgun.


My ladder stats. (http://ladder.ubi.com/index.asp?gamename=RAVENSHIELD&ladderid=0&modeid=0&lan=en&FILTERCHANGE=1&SELECT_ALIAS=EXACT&INPUT_ALIAS=IDPA_Master&SELECT_COUNTRY=&SELECT_RATING=EQUAL&INPUT_RATING=&SELECT_KILL=EQUAL&INPUT_KILL=&SELECT_DEATH=EQUAL&INPUT_DEATH=&SELECT_COMBAT=EQUAL&INPUT_COMBAT=&x=41&y=10) Albeit not good.
XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 04:49 PM
Will there be 'tac' lights in Athena Sword? Its incredibly dumb that the tango's use them and the actual swat/counter terrorist group doesn't in the game.
XyZspineZyX
10-08-2003, 08:44 PM
- Will there be 'tac' lights in Athena Sword?

OMG I wish there was! The only time the AI ever surprise me is when I come around a corner with NV up and get a flare from their tac lites.

Being able to exploit that (and suffer the obvious disadvantages) would add an intersting new tactical element to MP.

But they probably won't cuz it sounds like work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif



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XyZspineZyX
10-09-2003, 12:27 AM
Oh yeah!!!! I can't wait for the 93R... ( too bad I can't have a 92FS AND a 93R... hehe)
XyZspineZyX
10-09-2003, 01:09 AM
IDPA_Master wrote:
- When you get morons that alter the server
- speed, or gravity, you have no choice.

r00ts servers r actually adjusted the server speed, or i think it used to be, it wasnt that bad though

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